Chat archive · 2018-01

travelinmusic · · #79075

I am all skill

travelinmusic · · #79076

You are looking at me as though bit mining is my only source of income

travelinmusic · · #79077

I own several businesses that receive cash transations daily

travelinmusic · · #79078

I also work indirectly for the goverment

travelinmusic · · #79079

I made $145 in less than 5 minutes of labor for a government funded company that you all know.

travelinmusic · · #79080

this morning

travelinmusic · · #79081

And it is time to go make another $145. right now so I will be back in about 1/2 hour. by for now. (4 minutes work but 20 minutes commute)

Forum notification · · #79082

has started a new topic: what coin gives most proffit ?

travelinmusic · · #79083

Life is good!

travelinmusic · · #79084

AppleMiner wrote: The bank or its parent must notify the person who made the transaction that he’s been identified in the report,
Apple, not sure where you got that paste but I have never been notified and deposits total way more than 10k every month

travelinmusic · · #79085

Freedom is when government is afraid of it’s people, Tyranny is when the people are afraid of their government

AppleMiner · · #79086

from here. https://budgeting.thenest.com/us-bank-t ... 32363.html --Currency Transaction Report While you can make large transfers depending on your bank’s policy, the bank must report wire transfers over $3,000 and any transaction over $10,000. These Currency Transaction Reports (CTRs) are filled out, usually electronically, by the bank and forwarded to the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCen). Failure to fill out this report can result in regulatory action, including fines and sanctions, against the bank. The bank is responsible for filling out the report, but it does not have to inform the customer unless he requires such information. There is no illegality in making a large transfer as long as a CTR is properly submitted.

travelinmusic · · #79087

Last I checked we voted for capitalist freedom where cah is king, And we voted out the tranni .. I mean tyrant. Our new leader has already abolished the US Sharia tax imposed by the antichristian marxist. (healthcare mandate of IRS fine for not buying health insurance)

AppleMiner · · #79088

i support marxism myself, Im more socialist

AppleMiner · · #79089

i like social things....medicare, unemployment, social security.

travelinmusic · · #79090

I can tell, Its okay, eventually you will learn

AppleMiner · · #79091

free health care would be nice, sad we are a 1st world power and other countries all seem to manage that for their people.

travelinmusic · · #79092

Nothing is free, the DR gets paid

AppleMiner · · #79093

not saying its free, or it doesnt have to be paid for

travelinmusic · · #79094

Yes we are the greatest country on earth, as in most successful where the people have the most freedoms. We are that for a reason

AppleMiner · · #79095

canada seems to manage, france,germany, switzerland....but US cant fix dams, spillways, or their own people...kinda sad.

travelinmusic · · #79096

French airport bombed, freance concert mass murdered, police do not respond to certain ghettos etc

AppleMiner · · #79097

and people who live in glass houses shouldnt throw stones

AppleMiner · · #79098

cuase..nothing like that ever has happned in this country

AppleMiner · · #79099

no night clubs or movie theatres shot up?

travelinmusic · · #79100

Switzerland is not socialist as far as I know, Canadians cross the border for healthcare to avoid 6 months wait in line

AppleMiner · · #79101

police go to certain places after dark?

AppleMiner · · #79102

and US ppl cross to the canadain boarder for the same reason, and cheaper

AppleMiner · · #79103

they dont have to be socialist, but they do have socialist programs

AppleMiner · · #79104

but down with socialists....take away the benefits of the people.

AppleMiner · · #79105

everyone for themsleves!

travelinmusic · · #79106

There is a SEVERE mental health problem in US, ever since they closed the mental instatutions, and almost every one of those movie, nightclub shooters took the very same antidepressant

AppleMiner · · #79107

travelinmusic wrote: I can tell, Its okay, eventually you will learn

travelinmusic · · #79108

Go to socialist venezualla and eat your dog to survive, then yes you will learn

3Moose · · #79109

Did linxcoin have some issue -- not paid yet today on that coin.. I have 25 buck wrapped into that big boy!

travelinmusic · · #79110

Go to communist China and be murdered by your own govermnet for speaking out in the town square then you will learn

AppleMiner · · #79111

travelinmusic wrote: Go to socialist venezualla and eat your dog to survive, then yes you will learn
and be arrested just for bitcoin mining...pass.

travelinmusic · · #79112

Go to North Korea and be forced to eat your superior actual shit, then you will learn

AppleMiner · · #79113

no no no..you sir, have already lost, if you are jumping from socialism/marxism to communism

AppleMiner · · #79114

lets not go and make them the same please

AppleMiner · · #79115

they are seperate things, and if you didnt know that, you are already confused and hopeless.

travelinmusic · · #79116

That is exactly why they want to be in bitcoin in venezyualla , because their cash is now worthless due to socialisim

3Moose · · #79117

Close enough in actuality out outcome ... although techincally different.

AppleMiner · · #79118

well, was good talking to you, enjoy.

travelinmusic · · #79119

is all the same

AppleMiner · · #79120

different

travelinmusic · · #79121

you too Apple, That is exactly what every socialist will do, run away from conversation they know they have lost

travelinmusic · · #79122

peace Apple, no hard feelings! Always appreciate your bitcoin advice.

3Moose · · #79123

The different between a truly communist state and a fully socialist state is academic minutia.... but yes... "different"

travelinmusic · · #79124

The very first thing a tyrant will do to a free country is take away their freedom of speach and their guns.

travelinmusic · · #79125

Adolf Hitlet was a socialist

3Moose · · #79126

Having three grad degrees... (and lover of history - I wanted to get an PhD but wife said i had to make money) .... there is little difference outside the textbook. The problems in Venezuela and Russia a week before the fall are nearly identical .

travelinmusic · · #79127

I agree that there are levels of communism marxism socialism and Nazism it is a long slow torture but all are the same path

3Moose · · #79128

they all converge on the same path. Oppression of the people an eventual bankruptcy.

3Moose · · #79129

they all converge on the same path. Oppression of the people and eventual bankruptcy.

travelinmusic · · #79130

3Moose wrote: they all converge on the same path. Oppression of the people and eventual bankruptcy.
Exactly

3Moose · · #79131

Death under starvation in socialism, or death under starvation in communism, still leads to.... death.

travelinmusic · · #79132

Sorry to override chat with politics! I just wanted to bring attention to this proposed bill A BILL To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to exclude from gross income de minimis gains from certain sales or exchanges of virtual currency, and for other purposes. 1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa2 tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, 3 SECTION 1. VIRTUAL CURRENCY. 4 (a) IN GENERAL.—Part III of subchapter B of chap5 ter 1 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended 6 by inserting after section 139F the following new section: VerDate Sep 11 2014 21:46 Sep 14, 2017 Jkt 069200 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 6652 Sfmt 6201 E:\BILLS\H3708.IH H3708 asabaliauskas on DSKBBXCHB2PROD with BILLS 2 •HR 3708 IH 1 ‘‘SEC. 139G. GAIN FROM SALE OR EXCHANGE OF VIRTUAL 2 CURRENCY. 3 ‘‘(a) IN GENERAL.—Gross income shall not include 4 gain from the sale or exchange of virtual currency for 5 other than cash or cash equivalents. 6 ‘‘(b) LIMITATION.— 7 ‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—The amount of gain ex8 cluded from gross income under subsection (a) with 9 respect to a sale or exchange shall not exceed $600. 10 ‘‘(2) AGGREGATION RULE.—For purposes of 11 this subsection, all sales or exchanges which are part 12 of the same transaction (or a series of related trans13 actions) shall be treated as one sale or exchange. 14 ‘‘(c) VIRTUAL CURRENCY.—For purposes of this sec15 tion, the term ‘virtual currency’ means a digital represen16 tation of value that is used as a medium of exchange and 17 is not otherwise currency under section 988. 18 ‘‘(d) INFLATION ADJUSTMENT.—In the case of any 19 taxable year beginning in a calendar year after 2018, the 20 dollar amount in subsection (b) shall be increased by an 21 amount equal to— 22 ‘‘(1) such dollar amount, multiplied by 23 ‘‘(2) the cost-of-living adjustment determined 24 under section 1(f)(3) for the calendar year in which 25 the taxable year begins, determined by substituting VerDate Sep 11 2014 04:09 Sep 12, 2017 Jkt 069200 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 6652 Sfmt 6201 E:\BILLS\H3708.IH H3708 asabaliauskas on DSKBBXCHB2PROD with BILLS 3 •HR 3708 IH 1 ‘calendar year 2017’ for ‘calendar year 1992’ in sub2 paragraph (B) thereof. 3 Any increase determined under the preceding sentence 4 shall be rounded to the nearest multiple of $50.’’. 5 (b) CLERICAL AMENDMENT.—The table of sections 6 for part III of subchapter B of chapter 1 of such Code 7 is amended by inserting after the item relating to section 8 139F the following new item: ‘‘Sec. 139G. Gain from sale or exchange of virtual currency.’’. 9 (c) REPORTING OF GAINS OR LOSSES.—The Sec10 retary shall issue regulations providing for information re11 turns on virtual currency transactions for which gain or 12 loss is recognized. 13 (d) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The amendments made by 14 this section shall apply with respect to transactions en15 tered into after December 31, 2017.

3Moose · · #79133

That’s a lot of words....

AppleMiner · · #79134

can you name the top 10 socialist countries int he world today? I bet some of the top 10 will surprise and shock you. http://blog.peerform.com/top-ten-most-s ... the-world/

travelinmusic · · #79135

Is the actual bill

AppleMiner · · #79136

its the as long as you dont do over $600 a year in sales you dont have to report

3Moose · · #79137

Ok, let me read it. Do you have a bill number?

AppleMiner · · #79138

which is the same thing the pool says for 1099s, if you plan to make over $600 you have to be filed

3Moose · · #79139

Well...if 600 is the limit... then... I’m out.

AppleMiner · · #79140

per year

AppleMiner · · #79141

same as on this site

AppleMiner · · #79142

they just want to make it official law instead of a guideline

AppleMiner · · #79143

so if I send someone 1 or 2 LTC they can cash them as a payment and not have to report

3Moose · · #79144

thats at least an improvement.

travelinmusic · · #79145

travelinmusic · · #79146

H.R.3708 - To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to exclude from gross income de minimis gains from certain sales or exchanges of virtual currency, and for other purposes.

3Moose · · #79147

thanks.

AppleMiner · · #79148

so as long as you are converting 600 from btc to ltc you are ok.

AppleMiner · · #79149

but anything converted to cash is still reported

AppleMiner · · #79150

so thats not even if I pay someone 1 or 2 LTCs

travelinmusic · · #79151

600 per transaction so if you get paid in 10 coins a day at PH for $500 each then no tax reporting, AS apple noted you would still likely be responsible for the capital gains on the total at the end of the year.

AppleMiner · · #79152

as long as you are converting coins from 1 coin to another

AppleMiner · · #79153

soon as you convert to cash that whole law is out the window

travelinmusic · · #79154

My argument is that they are coins not cash like monoppoly money. There should be zero capital gains until you actually convert to US dollars, that is up for rebuttal of course

AppleMiner · · #79155

there arent any capital gains until you realize a sale. there is income earned tax at time of creation

travelinmusic · · #79156

I have never converted a single coin for cash, I tried but PH/coinbase lost the transaction of about $50.

AppleMiner · · #79157

based on the fair market value of the coins at the time you mint them

AppleMiner · · #79158

so never sold a coin even? just been stockpiling for years?

AppleMiner · · #79159

you must have a huge reserve then

travelinmusic · · #79160

you make a lot of assumptions apple.

AppleMiner · · #79161

which assumption?

travelinmusic · · #79162

Ive been in crypto less then 60 days

AppleMiner · · #79163

ok so not a huge reserver...yet then

travelinmusic · · #79164

well my saber is more powerful than yours so...

travelinmusic · · #79165

All crypto respect to you apple, you have way more experiance and knowledge on the subject

travelinmusic · · #79166

Check this out Apple, it will help you understand better.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUDSeb2zHQ0

Forum notification · · #79167

has started a new topic: Lost blocks

nickkliesen · · #79168

is anyone willing to help a complete novice

nacos · · #79169

is the site off ??

ryvaenge · · #79170

Just a noob question. Bitcoin on coinbase=11677$, yobit=13200$. Isn`t it just to buy a bitcoin on coinbase, send it to yobit and sell? :)

confusedjtag · · #79171

Please brothers release my funds tonight that’s a lot of money and all the forums are filled out

AppleMiner · · #79172

@confusedjtag :  which forums?

travelinmusic · · #79173

solo mining appears dead. 3 miners not showing up

godhimself · · #79174