Chat archive · 2018-01

Aura89 · · #78973

only one*

AppleMiner · · #78974

but they were ok with obelisk machines and those preorders?

Aura89 · · #78975

Obelisk and Siacoin are the same company

Aura89 · · #78976

Nebulos

AppleMiner · · #78977

not really worried about..in a few months, this is hopefully grab it, mine 20 days get roi, and then not care

Aura89 · · #78978

Nebulous*

AppleMiner · · #78979

hence the risk and gamble factor, same as on any crypto.

AppleMiner · · #78980

if you dont have it, dont invest/risk/gamble it

Aura89 · · #78981

yeah

Aura89 · · #78982

i have an Obelisk, just not a siacoin one

Aura89 · · #78983

A3 supposedly sold 20K units, if prices stay the same should take you 48 days to ROI, which theoretically, should be before any soft fork, if they do it.

Aura89 · · #78984

but, who knows if bitmain will sell more, the coin my skyrocket in value too

AppleMiner · · #78985

i need to go setup a wallet and be ready to go solo mining on it.

AppleMiner · · #78986

because there are all of 3 pools, and I really dont see any of them having bandwidth for more than 2 or 3 miners

Aura89 · · #78987

i mined it awhile ago with GPUs, before i ever got my L3+, was my first coin i mined

Aura89 · · #78988

lol

Aura89 · · #78989

luxor says they will, but, who knows

AppleMiner · · #78990

so half show up...they can take 10K new miners?

Aura89 · · #78991

that’s what they say, but realistically, no clue

Aura89 · · #78992

i think i used siamining

AppleMiner · · #78993

im setup for siamining

AppleMiner · · #78994

but i want to be setup on all of them and be ready for solo when they all 3 crash

AppleMiner · · #78995

because thats whats gonna make the difference

AppleMiner · · #78996

if all 3 pools go offline for 5 days or not.

Aura89 · · #78997

yeah

Aura89 · · #78998

bitmain is having problems with their siacoin pool apparently

AppleMiner · · #78999

shocking!

Aura89 · · #79000

even if siacoin softforks i’m sure someone else will make a coin on blake2b

AppleMiner · · #79001

seems like it would do well, since it owuld have a algo with hashrate sitting there waiting for it

Aura89 · · #79002

yeah

holygoof · · #79003

I started with siacoin as well, used siamining.com

holygoof · · #79004

Luxor takes 10% however, to give to back to the Devs

holygoof · · #79005

And vorick wrote a super long blog about Asics being good for cryptos, hard for him to back out now, tho they can softfork it

holygoof · · #79006

Whole problem has been this 8-10 month waiting for the miners, bitmain is not the only one with blake2b algo, baikal b can do it too, but only 80 GH

holygoof · · #79007

In any event, always liked Sia, still do, and hope it goes to 10 cents or more again, i mined 27k with my gpus these ladt 4 months :)

Aura89 · · #79008

If they hardfork it doesn’t invalidate that Obelisk SC1, only the A3

Aura89 · · #79009

softfork*

mjl13 · · #79010

Is it possible to export our earnings to a CSV of excel file?

mjl13 · · #79011

@Aura89 there is no chance they will hard fork it

Forum notification · · #79013

has started a new topic: Campuscoin Payments not working

m3t30v10 · · #79014

is there anyway I could contact Steve?

blakeman12 · · #79015

made out better solo mining here yesterday

3Moose · · #79016

I got paid in a new coin (for me) last night... Linxcoin. Anyone know when that pay out occurs? I got my other payouts already and its above the threshold.

Aura89 · · #79017

@mjl13 :  that’s a good joke.

travelinmusic · · #79019

travelinmusic · · #79020

We all need to fight for " The CryptoCurrency Tax Fairness Act" It is imperative that it pass into law. It will allow trasactions under $600 PER TRANSACTION to be TAX FREE! That would allow PH’s small micro payment model to be tax free. A may payout threshold could be set at $599. Thus each payout would be TAX FREE!

travelinmusic · · #79021

may = max*

AppleMiner · · #79022

would apply to having to pay taxes on capital gains. You wuold still have to report all earnings made to the US irs if a citizen.

AppleMiner · · #79023

thats only so bob can covert 400$ in LTC to BTC and not have to pay capital gains on that $400, still have to had claimed it when it was made, and once sold for cast down the road if over $600 would still owe capital gains on that plus income tax on the profits.

travelinmusic · · #79024

Capital gains are up to the coin owner to report or not . nobody elses business, but PH withholding payment until 1099 is only increasing payout to above the $600 level

AppleMiner · · #79025

if you think only the coin owners are going to report or not....good luck with that

AppleMiner · · #79026

pretty sure your bank will, the exchange will if required, the 1099 from here will....

travelinmusic · · #79027

Banks are only liable to report CASH transactions over $10,000. They generally do not bother with wires etc

travelinmusic · · #79028

Yes the 1099 form here will, but if The Bill passes then the 1099 form will no longer be required.

AppleMiner · · #79029

sure it will

travelinmusic · · #79030

US banks are seeing their depositers withdraw money at an extremely high rate at the moment... the cash is being witdrawn and converted to BTC ETC. I have a feeling the banks will keep their customers privacy respected for customer moving cash back into their vaults.

travelinmusic · · #79031

A BILL To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to exclude from gross income de minimis gains from certain sales or exchanges of virtual currency, and for other purposes. 1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa2 tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, 3 SECTION 1. VIRTUAL CURRENCY. 4 (a) IN GENERAL.—Part III of subchapter B of chap5 ter 1 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended 6 by inserting after section 139F the following new section: VerDate Sep 11 2014 21:46 Sep 14, 2017 Jkt 069200 PO 00000 Frm 00001 Fmt 6652 Sfmt 6201 E:\BILLS\H3708.IH H3708 asabaliauskas on DSKBBXCHB2PROD with BILLS 2 •HR 3708 IH 1 ‘‘SEC. 139G. GAIN FROM SALE OR EXCHANGE OF VIRTUAL 2 CURRENCY. 3 ‘‘(a) IN GENERAL.—Gross income shall not include 4 gain from the sale or exchange of virtual currency for 5 other than cash or cash equivalents. 6 ‘‘(b) LIMITATION.— 7 ‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—The amount of gain ex8 cluded from gross income under subsection (a) with 9 respect to a sale or exchange shall not exceed $600. 10 ‘‘(2) AGGREGATION RULE.—For purposes of 11 this subsection, all sales or exchanges which are part 12 of the same transaction (or a series of related trans13 actions) shall be treated as one sale or exchange. 14 ‘‘(c) VIRTUAL CURRENCY.—For purposes of this sec15 tion, the term ‘virtual currency’ means a digital represen16 tation of value that is used as a medium of exchange and 17 is not otherwise currency under section 988. 18 ‘‘(d) INFLATION ADJUSTMENT.—In the case of any 19 taxable year beginning in a calendar year after 2018, the 20 dollar amount in subsection (b) shall be increased by an 21 amount equal to— 22 ‘‘(1) such dollar amount, multiplied by 23 ‘‘(2) the cost-of-living adjustment determined 24 under section 1(f)(3) for the calendar year in which 25 the taxable year begins, determined by substituting VerDate Sep 11 2014 04:09 Sep 12, 2017 Jkt 069200 PO 00000 Frm 00002 Fmt 6652 Sfmt 6201 E:\BILLS\H3708.IH H3708 asabaliauskas on DSKBBXCHB2PROD with BILLS 3 •HR 3708 IH 1 ‘calendar year 2017’ for ‘calendar year 1992’ in sub2 paragraph (B) thereof. 3 Any increase determined under the preceding sentence 4 shall be rounded to the nearest multiple of $50.’’. 5 (b) CLERICAL AMENDMENT.—The table of sections 6 for part III of subchapter B of chapter 1 of such Code 7 is amended by inserting after the item relating to section 8 139F the following new item: ‘‘Sec. 139G. Gain from sale or exchange of virtual currency.’’. 9 (c) REPORTING OF GAINS OR LOSSES.—The Sec10 retary shall issue regulations providing for information re11 turns on virtual currency transactions for which gain or 12 loss is recognized. 13 (d) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The amendments made by 14 this section shall apply with respect to transactions en15 tered into after December 31, 2017.

AppleMiner · · #79032

ROFLLMAO

AppleMiner · · #79033

travelinmusic wrote: I have a feeling the banks will keep their customers privacy respected for customer moving cash back into their vaults.
Can I use this joke?

AppleMiner · · #79034

travelinmusic wrote: Banks are only liable to report CASH transactions over $10,000. They generally do not bother with wires etc
haven't beein 10K for the past 20 years now.

travelinmusic · · #79035

Apple , you obviously do not understand how banks work

AppleMiner · · #79036

is actually well under 6K now.

AppleMiner · · #79037

well, im not the one watching TV shows and still thinks there is a 10K limit, so I must not know, sorry.

AppleMiner · · #79038

but the tax forgiveness fair use, whatever, wont change the 1099s.

AppleMiner · · #79039

you will still owe for all the coins made on taxes for that year,at fair market value at time minted, wether you ever sell them or not.

AppleMiner · · #79040

and that 600 limit...I think thats per year? so as long as you dont make over $600 in a year....the same value PH says you need to fill out the question if you are US citizen or not.

travelinmusic · · #79041

Go ask a bank teller what their reporting requirements are for cash deposits. They will tell you that they are mandated to file a report for cash deposits over $10,000. They will also tell you that they can volentarily report smaller transactions if the customer is suspicious. That the the law of the land at the moment

AppleMiner · · #79042

oh...you have cash?

AppleMiner · · #79043

you sold the coins and have CASH...in hand...to hand to the teller?

AppleMiner · · #79044

no?

AppleMiner · · #79045

then doesn't really apply does it?

travelinmusic · · #79046

Yes I have cash

AppleMiner · · #79047

yes, the bank will tell you they HAVE to send in for over 10K

AppleMiner · · #79048

but what they wont tell you, is they all do for anyvalue over 6K now

AppleMiner · · #79049

since it was changed after 911

AppleMiner · · #79050

the reports are automatically sent

travelinmusic · · #79051

not true

AppleMiner · · #79052

they do not look over the values of deposits each day and flag them manually, anything over 6K gets auto reported.

travelinmusic · · #79053

10k

AppleMiner · · #79054

well you keep sticking in $9999 payments and think you arent being reported.

AppleMiner · · #79055

see how that goes for you.

travelinmusic · · #79056

It has been going well for 25 years

AppleMiner · · #79057

cool, gratz

travelinmusic · · #79058

but obviously 9999 will trigger a suspicious transaction

AppleMiner · · #79059

so will any value over 6K

travelinmusic · · #79060

Banks are required to file a Bank Secrecy Act Currency Transaction Report for cash deposits over $10,000. A copy of this form is sent to FinCEN, a division of the U.S. Treasury which is responsible for detecting money laundering and other financial crimes.Oct 4, 2017

travelinmusic · · #79061

Of course the 10000 limit is dumb because since it was enacted inflation has made the same $10000 now worth $100,000

AppleMiner · · #79062

Reporting Banks and businesses must file a form 8300 within 15 days after receiving the $10,000-plus payment. If the customer makes multiple smaller payments, the 15 days countdown starts as soon as the total paid exceeds $10,000. The bank or its parent must notify the person who made the transaction that he's been identified in the report, provide a contact number for follow-up questions and state the total amount of cash involved. Notification doesn't have to go out until Jan. 31 of the year after the company filed the 8300.

AppleMiner · · #79063

Banks may also report transaction that fall just under the BSA's $10,000

travelinmusic · · #79064

SO your $6000 is BS

AppleMiner · · #79065

This rule applies to American dollars and to foreign currency worth more than $10,000. It also kicks in if the bank receives multiple payments from the same agent or individual over the course of a year adding up to more than $10,000. Banks don't have to report personal checks, regardless of the amount.

AppleMiner · · #79066

Federal guidelines say suspicious activity could include a deposit or withdrawal of $5,000 or more

travelinmusic · · #79067

That is exactly waht I said. Manditory or 10k volentary under 10k if you are suspicious

AppleMiner · · #79068

so yeah my $6000 is BS...oh no its not.

AppleMiner · · #79069

or combined

travelinmusic · · #79070

Is is upto the teller,,, is you look like you just robbed teh 7-11 or smell like a methlab, then the individual teller may report

AppleMiner · · #79071

so if you make 20 deposits at $600 each and get over 10K you are reproited for that year

AppleMiner · · #79072

@travelinmusic :  pay, don't pay, swindle to IRS, thats all on you.

AppleMiner · · #79073

Good luck.

travelinmusic · · #79074

I do not need luck