Chat archive · 2018-06
lulzcart · · #87314
i am not receiving any payouts!!!
Steve Sokolowski · · #87317
JAMH2018 wrote: miners bounced to 2nd poolsThat was Chris enabling ERC20 tokens; see the post in the "News" forum
has started a new topic: Status as of Thursday, June 14, 2018
JAMH2018 · · #87320
Steve Sokolowski wrote:JAMH2018 wrote: miners bounced to 2nd poolsThat was Chris enabling ERC20 tokens; see the post in the "News" forum
has started a new topic: How to connect multiple asic devices from one IP
has started a new topic: Website Proposal for Miner Grouping
cloaker · · #87323
cool well my last recorded share was 51 minutes ago- its like groundhog day
cloaker · · #87324
ooops now it says 43 minutes ago.
NowMortimerJames · · #87325
mines was doing that on and off
NowMortimerJames · · #87326
disregard that last message.
ryguy · · #87327
a lot of shares are being marked as stale too
cloaker · · #87328
same EXACT symptoms b4 we went all the way down....effeciency goes to hell- wrong info being displayed- pool hash rate looks like its being suppressed- yes keep your 2nd pool settings up to date- they get used a lot lately
NowMortimerJames · · #87329
thanks for the advice. what other pools are you using
cloaker · · #87330
nicehash but this is my #1- really like the site, hope it settles down sooner rather than l8r
cloaker · · #87331
i think they are resetting- Live Worker Status (5) undefined: (5) One moment please, waiting for update...
cloaker · · #87332
thats listing like half 0f whats actually live
cloaker · · #87333
here are the rest- Live Worker Status (10) All: Expand - Collapse undefined: (10)
cloaker · · #87334
just no live hashing status yet but it seems to be headed in the right direction
suykast · · #87335
i think prohash has again exchange issues, no payouts in some coins like bitcoingold, monetary,polis, cannabis
has started a new topic: Database got behind earlier
DeterMINEd · · #87337
Not wishing to spread fud here, but is anybody else thinking of switching off their S9's?
cloaker · · #87338
your saying they dont pay for themselves right now?
DeterMINEd · · #87339
It is borderline
cloaker · · #87340
id try a couple days of solo mining a couple different coins/digibyte... you using 1 miner?
DeterMINEd · · #87341
4 miners
cloaker · · #87342
i get 1 block per 3 miners ever 3-4 days.....i only try every 3 of 4 days so it works well- if i could identify why that works/luck id have it. 27$ per block reward makes that worth while and there would be others
cloaker · · #87343
this pattern won’t be down like this for long
DeterMINEd · · #87344
Lets hope so it's getting depressing,thanks for your advice
cloaker · · #87345
its really just a hail mary but sure good luck
alim · · #87347
Re Digibtye - it might be worth just asking to be paid in the coin - if you average 1 block every 3 to 4 days, you will receive 700 Digis - if you mine, you may earn that much or more at the current price.
alim · · #87348
@DeterMined - if you have 4 L3s, then at current rates, you should make more than 700 Digis/day.
has started a new topic: Chris got one of the errors!
jeffms2003 · · #87350
@Steve Sokolowski - On the expected payout chart on the homepage is there any way to expand the decimals for the equihash algorithm? It would be nice to know the daily calculated payout averages. Maybe there is already somewhere this is available. If so, could you point me there?
Steve Sokolowski · · #87352
jeffms2003 wrote: @Steve Sokolowski - On the expected payout chart on the homepage is there any way to expand the decimals for the equihash algorithm? It would be nice to know the daily calculated payout averages. Maybe there is already somewhere this is available. If so, could you point me there?The numbers are wrong - that’s a known issue, but the priority of it is too low for us to fix it right now
Steve Sokolowski · · #87353
we hope to get it resolved in July or August, after we have resolved some of the more serious mining server issues
jeffms2003 · · #87354
Thank you
citronick · · #87355
steve - any plans to include Cryptonight hash soon?
alim · · #87356
@citronick - I’m keen too! happy to help test it!
CSZiggy · · #87358
alim wrote: @citronick - I’m keen too! happy to help test it!if its like at all how you 'TEST' your expiry and restart settings, don't bother. You TEST obsolete settings and tell people to use them as if they help. Even PH help pages took the old info off.
wackhelp · · #87359
litecoinCash has not payed out since 6-11-18. It counts down every day but does not complete. Anybody else have this issue?
Steve Sokolowski · · #87360
citronick wrote: steve - any plans to include Cryptonight hash soon?We’re focusing on improving stability and profitability right now
Steve Sokolowski · · #87361
we found an issue that is wasting 1% of profits
Steve Sokolowski · · #87362
so we want to get that fix done
alim · · #87363
@CSZiggy, If you have the X3 or equivalent, I’m sure Steve would love to have the benefit of your experience.
alim · · #87364
As for the L3, it’s clocking at 712MH, with the new tuning, I only need to set the scan time and then watch out for extra long work start penalties, whereas before my hash power was dropping off regularly.
cloaker · · #87365
what planet are you mining on?....the best settings are no settings..ESPECIALLY with a scrypt miner like an L3
cloaker · · #87366
you point it to the pool and keep it’s environment right and it will hash at 100% efficiency
cloaker · · #87367
have you ever mined under the auspice if it’s not broke con’t fix it? your messing with settings during specific periods the pool here was having intermittent problems. that is going in the opposite direction - you would be surprised how less is more with these miners
cloaker · · #87368
anything beyond pointing to the pool and naming said miner is too much. IF you over-clock all bets are off in many regards...if you don’t you should consider a ’plug-n-ply ’ approach
cloaker · · #87369
good luck
cloaker · · #87370
RE: mining digibyte .....you can mine digibyte all day and barely move the needle so i’d have to guess that isnt worth it unless its unintentional merged mining.imo
has started a new topic: Status as of Sunday, June 17, 2018
alim · · #87373
@cloaker thanks for your words of wisdom - my miners were definitely underperforming here - now that the problems have been resolved, I’m only using the scantime setting as suggested. Again, thanks - I’m glad to hear that others have not had the issues I’ve had.
CSZiggy · · #87374
alim wrote: now that the problems have been resolved, I’m only using the scantime setting as suggested.Scantime was for BFGminers, not CGminers like bitmains. Are your restarts less than 1 second? Are you wasting resources asking to scan 2X as many as the rest of the pool miners to end up with the same restart times?
alim · · #87376
@CSZiggy Hi - thanks for that. Setting scantime to 1 second as Prohashing recommends seems to help reduce the number of stale shares (routinely up to 40%) - When I first started 2 of my miners were classed as "not lucky" and didn’t earn at all until after some testing with Steve. Even now, they routinely drop to less than 75% of miner hashrate which can’t be solely attributed to work submissions (eg 100MH or 2THs less than the miner). Part of that is expected with higher difficulty, but mine are often connected for more than 2 minutes, and increases the likelihood that it will be stale.
CSZiggy · · #87377
alim wrote: Setting scantime to 1 second as Prohashing recommends .....When I first started 2 of my miners were classed as "not lucky" and didn’t earn at all until after some testing with Steve. Even now, they routinely drop to less than 75% of miner hashrate which can’t be solely attributed to work submissions (eg 100MH or 2THs less than the miner). Part of that is expected with higher difficulty, but mine are often connected for more than 2 minutes, and increases the likelihood that it will be stale.They recommend that for BFG MINERS, NOT CGMINERS. Unless you are using a KNC TITAN from 5 years ago, likely does not apply if using bitmain asics that utilize STRATUM protocol implemented correctly. No settings would change the badluck. Your miners say 715MH but how many errors are they throwing that the overclocked units would hit only 75%? 2 minutes...you need closer to 2 hours to get accurate readings. You cant hash 2 minutes and get accurate readings.
Tomas_Novak · · #87379
what to add equihash - SNOWGEM and ZELCASH ?
alim · · #87380
Yeah - got my 1st Digibyte block - the miner says 2 blocks found in 25 minutes, but I assume the 2nd is not real. ANd no, it’s not solo mining Digibyte - I did the calculations and reckon I could pay for more than the block reward by specifying it as the payout coin.
has started a new topic: BUZZcoin problem
minerproo · · #87382
Hi, who gets the reward for finding the block? and also payout proportion is not working for me. any help appreiceted
has started a new topic: Payout proportion not working
alim · · #87384
minerproo wrote: Hi, who gets the reward for finding the block? and also payout proportion is not working for me. any help appreiceted
alim · · #87385
@minerproo - this is a PPS site, so the block reward gets divided amongst the hash - UNLESS you are SOLO MINING a coin
has started a new topic: what to add equihash - SNOWGEM and ZELCASH ?
has started a new topic: ASICBOOST to be released this evening
Raptor1 · · #87388
With outdoor fresh air temp of 41C, achieved ASIC intake temp of 23C using ducted air-conditioning. Moving 12,500 cfm of fresh air. Cooling & Air circulation increased power cost by 16.5%
CSZiggy · · #87389
Raptor1 wrote: With outdoor fresh air temp of 41C, achieved ASIC intake temp of 23C using ducted air-conditioning. Moving 12,500 cfm of fresh air. Cooling & Air circulation increased power cost by 16.5%On Bitmains I just set the fan to be 100% on all the time. I stay well under 70'C, show no issues, and do not pay 16% more electric for the same hashing power. So you got the miner to go down to 23'C...does it provide any more hashrate for the money spent to cool it? If it gets the same hashrate at 70'C as it does at 23'C why waste money to cool it for no gains?
Raptor1 · · #87390
My outdoor (fresh air) temp is 41C and that is the intake temp of the ASICs. Without cooling, chip temps on an L3 was in the 85C++on D3s (95C –shut them down) S9s = 90C. Fans always on @100 % Was having board failures (XXXXXXXX). The INTAKE temp of the fan (not chip Temp) is now down to 23C instead of 41C. All ASICs running from 57-78C (depending on algo) Now I have zero failures been running with cooling for 2 weeks & also outdoor temp in shade peaked at 43C for a couple of days. No other option to cooling – tried massive airflow across the boards- it did help by bring down chip temps by about 4C but 41C ambient is way too high to be able to cool the chips. Will have to pay the 16% extra power cost to continue mining in summer. The cool bay is completely isolated from the hot bay
Foxx · · #87391
@Raptor1 : holy crap! what tonnage is your AC unit? i am moving roughly the same amount of air here but no way do i think my house air conditioner would be able tocool that much air continously. my L3’s will run below 70C with a max ambient air temp of 85 fahrenheit. my S9’s will not run in that heat. however, if i turn the frequency down, i can pretty much run them in any temp. the hottest it has gotten here is about 93 Fahrenheit.
Raptor1 · · #87392
A/C= Trane 7.5 tons packaged unit exclusively used for mining room. I agree with your statements re L3 & S9 temps. Your max ambient is 34C v/s mine of 43C. You could drop 3-4C by blowing air 36” away from air intake (I used box fans 4,150 cfm ea) Could not use evaporative cooling (high relative humidity). This project was a proof of concept. Now building up a portable insulated 13’ container to house 96 ASICs with A/C And also building portable insulated 13’ container to house up to 192 ASICs without A/C to be located in a part of the country where max summer temp does not exceed 31C / 88F
has started a new topic: [ANN][WEB] Webchain⚡️CPU mining, DApps via Websites and IoT - No ICO or ASIC
mycide · · #87395
raptor1 ur temps seems crazy u should prob not keep them running with these temps, lose ur investment.
mycide · · #87396
yeah, the L3+ are champs compared to some other bitmain products. no rigs broken, all working away since i bought them. 75% of all D3 failed within 3 months. (ie D3)
Foxx · · #87398
@Raptor1 : that’s some serious tonnage there. good to know that that would do it though. @mycide : did you turn the frequency down on the D3’s? Bitmain recommended reducing it. i forget what the frequency they recommended to reduce it to, but you would get about 17 GH/s. mine seemed to run better before i shut them down due to lack of profitability.
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has started a new topic: Asic Boost for S7
jeffms2003 · · #87401
When I export payments, why do US Dollar payouts show as BTC? In trying to keep up with revenue for tax purposes it will show as BTC and trigger capital gains calcs when it is really USD, correct?
jeffms2003 · · #87402
Or USD earnings I should say.
sirslayerjr · · #87403
either or BTC or USD is still capital gains.
sirslayerjr · · #87404
cause it goes to coinbase..
minerproo · · #87405
which one is better PPS or solo mining?
jeffms2003 · · #87406
BTC or USD aren’t capital gains alone. I don’t see how my USD payouts could be held in BTC due to price fluctuations. Maybe the USD payouts are initiated as BTC and instantly converted to USD and then will be transferred to CB as USD? When you have a mining business you have your initial amount earned daily which is revenue and then when you sell a coin you then either have a capital gain or loss.
CSZiggy · · #87407
I don't think the pool pays out USD, so you are getting BTC that is being sold by coinbase on your behalf. You might have a capital gains tax to pay also on the sold coins.
DeterMINEd · · #87408
Has anybody had any luck with solo mining on SHA-256, now that the difficulty makes multi mining profitless?
Steve Sokolowski · · #87409
DeterMINEd wrote: Has anybody had any luck with solo mining on SHA-256, now that the difficulty makes multi mining profitless?That’s not true; there’s a 1% gain over BTC in SHA-256
cloaker · · #87410
i always ran 3 miners until the difficulty changedc so i added a 4th i had ready so my profits would not see a hit but ill be damned if Determined hasn’t hit on an observation the rest of us are seeing as well and thats the lack of found blocks all of the sudden
cloaker · · #87411
100% the blocks found has went from finding merged, mined blocks in multiple instances on multiple levals for sha to a non existent waste;land over the last 2 weeks
cloaker · · #87412
i rarely solo mine but my m3’s were finding sha blocks daily.....digibyte every 3-4 days etc....all that is gone- i find a rare shit coin block for sha and plents all day every day for scrypt
cloaker · · #87413
so listen to what he saying steve you got the same access to data we do - we arent finding blocks with sha like we were and if you want to look at my block explorer in my Cp do it- your dead wrong on the end result, i dont follow wth 1% gain over btc even means as it relates to finding blocks
cloaker · · #87414
im merge mining so i dont get paid anyway but i was still finding them daily and nice ones weekly
cloaker · · #87415
all done- if you cant see that just by looking at someones or YOUR own FOUND BLOCK exploer here on site then you are presently stroking out
cloaker · · #87416
and we’ll call 911
cloaker · · #87417
cloaker · · #87418
this is a reference for what he spoke to- Scrypt RonPaulcoin 1 0 47,228,686 $0.1304 Immature 9:51:42 AM 940280 Scrypt BitBlock 6 0 127,417,974 $0.0809 Mature 8:48:21 AM 1074836 Scrypt Leafcoin 3500 0 4,500,478,832 $0.0546 Mature 6:35:45 AM 2058052 Scrypt Sexcoin 6.25 0 42,432,950 $0.0932 Mature 10:38:12 PM 2803836 Scrypt NewYorkcoin 10000 0 280,462,595 $0.5793 Mature 9:39:10 PM 4427500 Scrypt Sakuracoin 25 0 71,941,188 $0.0500 Mature 5:27:08 PM 1229802 Scrypt Sexcoin 6.25 0 58,370,844 $0.0922 Mature 2:14:54 PM 2803328 Scrypt LiteBitcoin 500 0 155,385,429 $0.8225 Mature 6/20/2018 10:54:48 AM 69163 Scrypt Sakuracoin 25 0 22,175,804 $0.0537 Mature 6/20/2018 10:16:07 AM 1229575 Scrypt Leafcoin 3500 0 5,959,321,769 $0.0453 Mature 6/20/2018 6:02:22 AM 2056636
cloaker · · #87419
its a sea of scrypt - it used to be like 60/30 but to go to no found sha-blocks in any given period IS CRAZY
alim · · #87420
cloaker wrote: i rarely solo mine but my m3’s were finding sha blocks daily.....digibyte every 3-4 days etc....all that is gone- i find a rare shit coin block for sha and plents all day every day for scryptI tried solo mining digi on L3s, S9 and t9 and came up with nothing because of the drop on the return - I put that down to sheer hashpower at the current difficulty level. I have hit my first Digibyte not solo mining - which is the best luck I’ve had here the whole time. Long winded way of saying I don’t know what has changed, but something has. As long as the sh$t coins are paying the highest returns and improves daily earnings, I’m happy. I just want to max out earnings in my target coin. I believe I’m finding more blocks, but I don’t know to what is responsible.
alim · · #87421
jeffms2003 wrote: When I export payments, why do US Dollar payouts show as BTC? In trying to keep up with revenue for tax purposes it will show as BTC and trigger capital gains calcs when it is really USD, correct?You don’t earn cash here - you earn coin. Country regs are different - and I’m speaking to a tax adviser in the UK. As a business, I think you will face a number of levels of computation to determine your company profitability - the investment in miners is a capital expenditure (one hopes), running costs, etc. As for the income, I think you need to look at the value fluctiuations from the time you actually receive the coin on Coinbase to the time it is sold - this will diverge from the indicative $ amount displayed on the Prohashing screen. I believe that there is a time element associated with capital gains of assets, but I don’t know enough about the US law since I no longer have to worry about world wide income levels (no offshoring profits for US citizens)
jeffms2003 · · #87423
Here is the answer right in the help page...haha. Stupid me.
jeffms2003 · · #87424
For U.S. dollars we store payouts in Bitcoins before sending the Bitcoins to Coinbase to convert to dollars, the value of your dollar holdings will fluctuate with the BTC/USD exchange rate before we send the bitcoins to Coinbase for sale. It is possible that if the BTC/USD exchange rate fluctuates between the time you view your account and the time coins are sent to Coinbase, your Coinbase account could receive more or fewer dollars that were estimated.
jeffms2003 · · #87425
So there is no difference between selecting BTC and USD