Chat archive · 2018-06
alim · · #87210
I do have 1 problematic L3 which I point elsewhere for a couple of hours and that seems to help
cloaker · · #87211
if these issues were local they would not correct by switching pools - i have seen enuff here the last 2 weeks to know they got issues that never favor the mining rig lol\
alim · · #87212
are all your miners from the same batch?
alim · · #87213
my newer ones are the ones with issues
cloaker · · #87214
i never have issues ever- last 2 weeks i can’t say that and there is always some message saying back up , or reporting back to normal
alim · · #87215
ok, I run one at 512MHz and get around 670output - with work penalties, that averages around 625-640 here
cloaker · · #87216
its not a miner issue- miners dont fix themselves by pointing them elsewhere - and L3+ is 384 by default and i don’t overclock, my chips stay in the 40’s and 50’s
alim · · #87217
If I find blocks, then I get a higher penalty, so I just reboot
NowMortimerJames · · #87218
yeah i need to move some to a different room, i just dont want wires running everywhere. I dont have enough outlets in this damn room
alim · · #87219
NMJ - extension lead?
NowMortimerJames · · #87220
my wife would have a heart attack.
alim · · #87221
LOL - for me cabling has always been an issue - sockets are never in the right place. Sometimes you can fix the circuit board (did that for the kitchen).
cloaker · · #87222
from less than 1% stale shares to" Both primary and merge mined shares are stale 680 44.74%"....there are issues going on here and its costing $$$$
cloaker · · #87223
and increase of stale shares by 40% yet all miners are less than .9% at any other pool- .....
cloaker · · #87224
i yanked my scrypt miners and getting ridiculous warning on the sha miners now- too bad cuz i like the site but time = money and too much downtime and inaccurate reporting is too much when profits are ALSO low
balzsam · · #87225
live balances rapidly slowed down
cloaker · · #87226
i have extra miners and other pools to use for troubleshooting . when its all good and acting as they should in every capacity elsewhere- and they are - its definitive. that and the fact your not going to have 12 miners of different makes and models go tits up at the same time
alim · · #87227
@cloaker - understand completely
cloaker · · #87228
i never seen my sha miners operate at less than 98% efficiency,but here- now they are at 58% so im not sure what aspect is affected most - thats all the data i have ,relevant
alim · · #87229
My sha-256 miners have been problematic, thus the use of the scan & expiry time
cloaker · · #87230
4:08 pm was last accepted share 
cloaker · · #87231
yes well when all your sha miners, and scrypt miners go nutso at the same time here.........
alim · · #87232
hmm.. I’m sure I had some later... Steve did a post earlier saying they would check the shares
cloaker · · #87233
but normalize as soon as you switch pools ......
alim · · #87234
I’m solo mining and the s9 is showing 13.18TH
alim · · #87235
T9 is the one which is problematic for me - showing 9...
cloaker · · #87236
im getting 38 th/s out of 3 miners that isnt the issue
JonSmith · · #87237
4:28:54 PM here central
cloaker · · #87238
its not accepting shares.classifying them as stale
alim · · #87239
I’m in Scotland - 23:18
alim · · #87240
set the Scan and expiry time
alim · · #87241
That will prevent work on stale shares
cloaker · · #87242
they all work fine elsewhere- its not on my end ive seen this 4 times in the last 2 weeks and never b4
alim · · #87243
I’ve always had problems - mine will continue to work for 2 minutes, causing 40% stale
alim · · #87244
I use scan-time=6 expiry=24 but I believe the accepted practice is 7 & 28 respectively
alim · · #87245
The Help page says to set scan-time=1
cloaker · · #87246
the front page chart shows the pool hash rate getting hammered which is also indicative of issues
cloaker · · #87247
as in its dropping like flies on stink
alim · · #87248
Hmm, I thought that only meant we were mining the highest paying coins
cloaker · · #87249
anyone adjusting their miners to whats going on is going in the opposite direction of logical troubleshooting
alim · · #87250
Cloaker, I’ve had these issues since I started.... so I did the research
cloaker · · #87251
point my miners here- stale shares, inaccurate reporting - repoint to 2nd hash pool as have in the past all good. its not even a question
alim · · #87252
I’ve always had an issue with stale shares - nothing new
cloaker · · #87253
i been here for months this isnt normal and as i pointed out the pool hashrate looks like it should when we are having issues your preaching to the choir- this isnt research its a technical issue
JonSmith · · #87254
yup my L3’s are started to hash on the secondary pool automatically
cloaker · · #87255
look at the front page
cloaker · · #87256
so anyway- good luck.........
JonSmith · · #87257
share processed time is all over the place, even showing this morning
alim · · #87258
JS - share processing is not live, it is just representative...
JonSmith · · #87259
@alim copy
accumulus · · #87260
after reset at 5:30 PM ET things appear back to normal and live balances appear normal and normal rates. Still would like to understand what happened at 5:30 pm from Steve or Chris.
NowMortimerJames · · #87261
litecoinpool.org is a scam
NowMortimerJames · · #87262
GregoryGHarding you sir were feasting on Bata yesterday. I tried to jump in on the action but i couldnt compete
NowMortimerJames · · #87263
@GregoryGHarding :
cloaker · · #87264
ridiculous to say they are a scam- i mined there for a lot longer than most sites have been around-FAR from the scams im used to seeing unless you call mining pps and getting payouts correct/daily a scam then i see your pointless comment
cloaker · · #87265
you know why they are in most peoples back up pools like nicehash...it’s because they are reliable- i can trace stability issues of all types back to december of last year when mining was going nutso- people are still here
cloaker · · #87266
loyalty is not an issue but going down every few days is tiresome and un-necessary and negates ANY advantage you can utilize here so its not a matter of opinion any longer
cloaker · · #87267
i doubt they would disagree- its got issues that will need to be solved...constant downtime will take them backwards and its worse when its slower and profitability is down
cloaker · · #87268
i may have made 2$ more here in the last 24 hrs vesus running 7 l3
cloaker · · #87269
=s over there but HTF would i know...i’m missing shares from the site experiencing issues once again
cloaker · · #87270
so dick around with the outages every 4 or 5 days then in 4 or 5 months add up your lost shares....or make adjustments . this is a good pool with good things going for it and a dedicated, understaffed and overwhelmed core
cloaker · · #87271
the infrastructure is not right , we are having constant issues and the poll in my CP wants to know if I think the site looks pretty
cloaker · · #87272
you’ll get it when you invest more than your lunch money
NowMortimerJames · · #87273
i’m calling them a scam because the last 24hrs have been a total crap shoot. believe it or not i’ve almost equaled my amount here than there in 4 hours time
NowMortimerJames · · #87274
scam may have been extreme hyperbole but their performance is WAY down
alim · · #87276
@NMJ - Litecoinpool returns are down because of the increase in LTC difficulty... because they only merge mine DOGE, they can’t reap the spikes in profit Prohashing target. Fully appreciate that ProH has both growth and infrastructure upgrade issues... Thus the move to solo mining on 2 miners for me.
has started a new topic: The number of blocks not match
has started a new topic: Status as of Wednesday, June 13, 2018
Steve Sokolowski · · #87280
cloaker wrote: a dedicated, understaffed and overwhelmed coreI think that people miss that the reason litecoinpool is more stable is because it is exceedingly simple. They only mine and pay out one coin, deal with no exchanges, and (as far as I'm aware) are not in compliance with IRS regulations. Unfortunately, this system will never be as stable as other pools because it isn’t possible to completely test a system with so many coins and exchanges in an offline environment.
As to the issue with staffing, we unfortunately can't address that for the reason we discussed when bitcoins were worth $20k - this bubble isn't going to bottom out until $980. Our expenses are lined up with that projection, and the surplus we are running now needs to be set aside to keep us afloat when the bottom of this cycle is reached. Then, we'll have an incredible featureset in time for the next uptrend.
jeffms2003 · · #87282
$980...lol. You won’t have anyone mining at those prices.
jeffms2003 · · #87283
Do you have BTC shorted if you think it’s going to $980?
JonSmith · · #87285
are the servers down?
Foxx · · #87286
@Steve Sokolowski : </strong> Steve, do you mind if i ask how you arrive at that $980 number?
Steve Sokolowski · · #87287
JonSmith wrote: are the servers down?No.
Steve Sokolowski · · #87288
Foxx wrote: @Steve Sokolowski : </strong> Steve, do you mind if i ask how you arrive at that $980 number?Just look at the previous bubbles and how the last one in ’14 fell to just below the high of the bubble prior
Steve Sokolowski · · #87289
the capitulation in the 14 downcycle was just below the $266 high of the previous cycle, and $980 was strong support and resistence for a long time
Steve Sokolowski · · #87290
so I think that bitcoins will fall to $980 and hover around there for a few months, and then while they will recover, most of the recovery will be in BCH and ETH
Steve Sokolowski · · #87291
as to selling, I don’t sell because we don’t have any bank accounts
Steve Sokolowski · · #87292
so our savings are in coins and we live and die by coins
JonSmith · · #87293
Steve Sokolowski wrote:thanks...I had the entire website crash on me for about 8 minutes while I was trying to tweak some payment percentages..thank youJonSmith wrote: are the servers down?No.
Foxx · · #87294
@Steve Sokolowski : </strong> thanks for your thoughts. if we project that a bit out the next bubble should have BTC (or one of it variants, maybe the whole of the BTC’s) at figures. 
Foxx · · #87295
* at 6 figures.
cloaker · · #87296
ok steve .....and the future of such a coin that has absolutely no github/repo activity ?
cloaker · · #87297
nada- zilch and thats what LTC is...a no activity coin that fell from #2 crypto in the world to where it sits now
cloaker · · #87298
i dont mind saying your price predictions are as stoned as you must be as well
cloaker · · #87299
good luck tho
cloaker · · #87300
985? you must be using an abacus lol
Foxx · · #87301
@cloaker : what is your problem man? just because your upset about what you perceive to be issues with the mining here is no reason to get personal. and just a FYI, many of the issues you mentioned in your tirade yesterday occur with other pools as well. i will grant that PH has a tad more than most others but this site is what it is. no one is making you mine here are they? perhaps you are a masochistic?
Foxx · · #87302
Steve and Chris are upstanding men in my observation. they answer all the tough questions. you may not like the answer but they do not evade. tough to do in this environment.
Foxx · · #87303
i hope you have a better night sir!
has started a new topic: Chris to restart tonight
jeffms2003 · · #87305
So about the $980 - I’m sure that was a long time support level, but that was like 4-5 years ago and the market is way different now. That would be similar to saying Apple stock traded at $100 back in 14 and some in 15 and that it will go back there because it traded there in the past. Well the company’s balance sheet, customer base, and multiple other factors play in which will likely keep that from happening. Anything can happen, but I would challenge $980 because of the change in market and # of participants.
jeffms2003 · · #87306
Unless, of course, you are of the school of thought that BTC isn’t going to stay the course.
NowMortimerJames · · #87307
985 is frightening
jeffms2003 · · #87308
I mean something could take the place of BTC and then it go down like that, but it seems very extreme at this point.
Splinter · · #87309
No way BTC will drop to $985 man
Splinter · · #87310
quite the opposite... we are close to a new bullrun (but we may fall a little more before that)
lacik · · #87311
live profitability problem
JAMH2018 · · #87312
ive got issues with both scrypt and x11 miners, ’0’ hash rates
JAMH2018 · · #87313
miners bounced to 2nd pools