Chat archive · 2017-07
AvPro · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:37 PM UTC
@Konov : so the people who make big 60ghash fix when diff drop on a good coin?
GregoryGHarding · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:38 PM UTC
@Konov : whats your accounts on slack. il activae your main one but deactivate your others. theres a possibility of a slack upgrade in the future that costs per user
wkying79 · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:38 PM UTC
@konov I am talking about standard orders only. What’s to stop someone else u related to PH miners to use PH data to cause the effects u talk about??
fattygrub · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:38 PM UTC
konov maybe you just need a hug... can i send someone to hug you now?
fattygrub · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:38 PM UTC
maybe with wine and chocolates?
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:39 PM UTC
Konov, seriously think about it, consider that it's the WAMP data that tied between the sites and drives the prices, not our ordeers
Konov · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:39 PM UTC
what is a hug? I didnt know
fattygrub · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:39 PM UTC
tell us how much you want or make per day.
Konov · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:39 PM UTC
I DID MOVE PRICE becase OF YOU
fattygrub · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:39 PM UTC
i want $400 per day..i am good..perhaps
fattygrub · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:39 PM UTC
..you have overextended yourself??
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:40 PM UTC
Ok, think about it at least? Consider that the WAMP data is what drives the prices on NH, its tied together
fattygrub · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:40 PM UTC
and have to screw everyone else to feel better about losing so badly?
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:40 PM UTC
hang on fatty, am trying to get a point across here
fattygrub · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:41 PM UTC
i will send chocolates and floers, honets, stop losing on purpose..
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:41 PM UTC
Konov - are you willing to consider that it can be the WAMP data feed that is driving prices?
Konov · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:41 PM UTC
you using wamp data, you place new orders, my bot angries on new orders, price go up - that is the way it goes
GregoryGHarding · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:41 PM UTC
@Konov : what are your other accounts
AvPro · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:42 PM UTC
He’s annoyed at the people who put big fixes in at times of good profit
Konov · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:42 PM UTC
fixes is a different part of story
wkying79 · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:42 PM UTC
@konov u are guessing at best. Sorry but u have no proof that anyone tied to PH is making 25ghs orders. Just blindly guessing
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:42 PM UTC
Not true Konov, it works like this
fattygrub · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:42 PM UTC
maybe christmas card? johnny walker?
Konov · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:42 PM UTC
I cant place fix by bot, so I place fix 1 time daily
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:43 PM UTC
The WAMP data reacts to rise and fall of profitability in the coins, when profit rises drastically, it reflects in the WAMP data and your bots react
tp31989 · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:43 PM UTC
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GregoryGHarding · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:44 PM UTC
the thing is. nor i or friskie, or fatty can speak for all other members, espically the ones who are not a part of the community, we cannot control what they do
GregoryGHarding · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:44 PM UTC
the service is an open use policy
wkying79 · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:44 PM UTC
The solution is to have WAMP output average profitability only. That should end most of the automated nonsense
fattygrub · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:44 PM UTC
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GregoryGHarding · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:44 PM UTC
i know active community members are slowly moving to mrr now that some members host and give discounts to ph slack members
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:45 PM UTC
Its not our orders driving the bots, the coin switching algorithm finds profitable coins, and sometimes very profitable, a huge profit spike, , this is shown in the WAMP data, your bots see it
fattygrub · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:45 PM UTC
wkying79 wrote: The solution is to have WAMP output average profitability only. That should end most of the automated nonsense yes the wild swings everywhere could be smoothed this wsy
tp31989 · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:45 PM UTC
fattygrub wrote: tp31989 wrote: Anyone interested renting a L3+ get at me guaranteed 100% uptime 100gigbit internet line I replyed
Konov · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:45 PM UTC
I got myself kind of wamp
Konov · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:46 PM UTC
nh is not using it also
GregoryGHarding · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:46 PM UTC
we've beleived for a long time that NH is using out WAMP data to adjust pricing. theres been times WAMP is down, NH goes into mantiannce mode
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:46 PM UTC
Anyway, think about it, ok?
fattygrub · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:46 PM UTC
yes but konov bot do not... i can see it.. his bot is not angry...it is slow and stupid
wkying79 · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:46 PM UTC
Prove that NH doesn’t use PH data
fattygrub · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:47 PM UTC
he is the bot with "1200"+ gigs
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:47 PM UTC
Konov, NH is ties to the PH WAMP data, be sure
fattygrub · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:47 PM UTC
slowly up and down like an oafe
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:47 PM UTC
And this is why the prices rise and fall, not because of our orders
GregoryGHarding · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:48 PM UTC
no need to pour feul on the konov fire
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:48 PM UTC
Why do you think everything is OK when PH goes down?
tp31989 · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:48 PM UTC
Fattygrub u getting my messages?
Konov · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:48 PM UTC
I didnt want to prove anything to anyone.
wkying79 · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:48 PM UTC
@konov prove NH doesn’t use PH data otherwise you are just blind guessing
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:48 PM UTC
Its because the WAMP data is down
GregoryGHarding · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:49 PM UTC
when WAMP is down you will see a corrilation to NH price drop
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:49 PM UTC
WAMP is used by NH to set orders, its the reason things are OK when PH goes down
Konov · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:49 PM UTC
Yes. because there are no new ph orders on nh this moments
wkying79 · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:49 PM UTC
@konov explain how PH users affects NH prices again. Your points are not clear and seem like opinion
wkying79 · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:50 PM UTC
@konov seems more like nH guys are the problem
GregoryGHarding · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:50 PM UTC
when wamp is down, ph is still in operation
Konov · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:50 PM UTC
i’m using nh from the begining, there are no nh bosses that push prices
wkying79 · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:50 PM UTC
@konov show me I am wrong because it seems more possible Nh use PH data to manipulate their market prices
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:51 PM UTC
Konov, NH uses PH WAMP for prices
GregoryGHarding · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:51 PM UTC
no need to demand proof.. because there is none for both sides
wkying79 · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:51 PM UTC
@konov so u basically don’t know for sure what NH is doing do u?
Konov · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:51 PM UTC
@ wkying79 if I switch off my bot, some one didn’t place unlim orders, price will remain on ltc - mining-level
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:51 PM UTC
That is what the prices move, not because of our orders
Konov · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:52 PM UTC
friskie - my bot did price rising
wkying79 · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:52 PM UTC
Well burden is on Konov to provide proof because he is making a public conclusion
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:52 PM UTC
I'm fine with the bots, they work fairly
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:52 PM UTC
But I wish Konov would consider that NH does use the PH WAMP data feed, And thats why the prices rise and fall
wkying79 · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:53 PM UTC
His bots push prices even when there don’t look like any orders there to push
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:53 PM UTC
Its also why they are "ok" when PH goes down, its because there is nio WAMP
AvPro · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:53 PM UTC
FRISKIE wrote: I’m fine with the bots, they work fairly everyone fair except Konov bot
wkying79 · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:54 PM UTC
@friskie yes it would make much more sense NH use PH data to make changes to pricing. I think anyone who owns a business would realize the simplicity of this too
wkying79 · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:54 PM UTC
In fact it is only Konov saying something that doesn’t make sense and is also u realistic
GregoryGHarding · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:55 PM UTC
there isnt another pool out there that has profitability stats on the fly, they are usually delayed minutes
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:55 PM UTC
It is that way, NH uses the PH WAMP because PH has coinn switching, so PH WAMP help to set pricing more closely to the braoder market
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:56 PM UTC
The PH WAMP data is closely tied to the broader market conditions
GregoryGHarding · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:56 PM UTC
anyway guys, i cant maintain conversation on multiple chats. my #simpleton brain cant compute. see you in slack!
wkying79 · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:56 PM UTC
If I was NH developer I would certainly use PH live data because the data exists and its useable. Simply and fast solution
FRISKIE · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:57 PM UTC
Yes, and the coin switching algo means the data is closely tied to the market
wkying79 · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:58 PM UTC
@konov and u only make it even worse by having bots amplify the effect. In effect u are only benefiting Nh pool which might be what u want anyway
Konov · Tue Jul 11, 2017 08:58 PM UTC
If I was NH, I would buy ph and redirect all miners to them
