Chat archive · 2017-11

Aura89 · · #45848

They don’t accept credit cards because payments within a banking system generally get their accounts closed for being associated with cryptocurrency. Even though that, itself, is not illegal, many banks will close accounts if they know its cryptocurrency based. Minermoe, do you need a tinfoil hat?

AppleMiner · · #45849

BUT you did, and they sent what you ordered, had they just took the money and run, THEN it would have been a scam

Minermoe · · #45850

@appleminer you must be 12 years old or really thick! People who get scammed

Minermoe · · #45851

Don’t know till after the fact

Aura89 · · #45852

And as well, not accepting certain forms of payment again, is not a scam.

Minermoe · · #45853

You don’t know what they sent me, so you can not say whether I did or did not get scammed!

AppleMiner · · #45854

Well you are entitled to your opinion, everyone is. You can think you were scammed, I will continue to think I got exactly what I paid for and be fine with it, and we can just agree to disagree on that. 8)

Aura89 · · #45855

Every company tests products, and every company has products still fail, sometimes due to shipping, sometimes just earlier then expect, and every company asks you to ship it back to them unless the product is like a large TV in which case they send a person out to fix your item, who does not even work for them.

Minermoe · · #45856

They clearly scammed many people. I’m not saying EVERYONE got scammed. Many, many many people did all over the world

Aura89 · · #45857

Ok and how did they scam you Minermoe? because nothing you have stated so far is even remotely a scam.

AppleMiner · · #45858

Im sure there were some mistakes

AppleMiner · · #45859

you cant ship 2 million units andnot fuck up a few hundred

AppleMiner · · #45860

but the numbers of people Ive had complain about an issue of not getting an item

AppleMiner · · #45861

vs how many we have that are in hands and up and running

Minermoe · · #45862

Go read the FB reviews and you will read many victims to their scam!

AppleMiner · · #45863

very small compared.

Minermoe · · #45864

I have bought units from them, which I have not received. Price fixing, not responding

AppleMiner · · #45865

yes I read many, people are sad they arent getting rich quick like the math numbers told them 3 months ago they would be

Minermoe · · #45866

Taking people’s money and not returning it if item isn’t shipped

AppleMiner · · #45867

I get that. Doesnt make the product a scam.. Blame the game, not the players.

Aura89 · · #45868

Oh, so what you’re saying Minermoe is that you are unwilling to showcase how you were scammed, but are going to continue to say you were scammed, make an uproar, and then provide "proof" by saying look at these other people who have no proof as your proof. That’s some great proof there minermoe, you should totally be taken seriously.

Minermoe · · #45869

Or they have their item still as unpaid and say re order at a higher price

Minermoe · · #45870

That is all elements of a scam, and that is only a fraction of things I am aware they did AFTER I made my

Minermoe · · #45871

Purchase

AppleMiner · · #45872

if its unpaid it wasnt paid in time

Aura89 · · #45873

Well i’m done with this conversation since i don’t like to talk with tinfoil hat people. They don’t budge because they only care about what is going on in their head, not reality.

AppleMiner · · #45874

so the order gets canceled

AppleMiner · · #45875

and when you place it again if its gone up in price you have to pay a higher price

AppleMiner · · #45876

is that not how orders work? what did I miss?

Minermoe · · #45877

I don’t understand why you are defending such a company that is doing horrible things to people! You guys are pathetic if you support this type of business

fallingcurtain · · #45878

whats up with 2givecoin? looks like it plummetted

AppleMiner · · #45879

think lots did, BTC lost 500 value earlier today

Minermoe · · #45880

I have 8 D3 for sale, send me money, I’ll say I didn’t get it, and after two weeks tell you to re order at a higher price

AppleMiner · · #45881

sure Ill paypal you, and when you havent supplied a shipping tracking number Ill cancel and get my money back

AppleMiner · · #45882

AND ?

fallingcurtain · · #45883

apple are you collecting 2givecoin?

AppleMiner · · #45884

no

AppleMiner · · #45885

not even sure what that one is

fallingcurtain · · #45886

its some crap

Minermoe · · #45887

All I am doing is creating awareness to what they have done to many people, including my self, and have them speak up! Rather than sit on their ass and think there is nothing they can do about it. Not everyone falls under this boat. If you have been scammed contact your local official and they can help you contact the Local a Chinese Embassy to help recoup your money

fallingcurtain · · #45888

im focusing on bitcoin until the fork

AppleMiner · · #45889

Yes if you did pay and they received it all, then they should ship it

AppleMiner · · #45890

I ordered 3 power supplies

AppleMiner · · #45891

and I sent the money

Minermoe · · #45892

@appleminer- like Bitmain I only accept cryptos or bank transfer!!!! Ding ding ding..... you want to PayPal because you know you would like me changing the price after you paid me at x price and i then raise the price on you, make you pay more, and then ship you a faulty item! Idiot!

AppleMiner · · #45893

and a week later I saw it was still unpaid

fallingcurtain · · #45894

I just receonnected to prohash again. Seems to be running pretty good so far.

AppleMiner · · #45895

when i checked, the wallet service was nice enough to take the fee from the amount i was sending

AppleMiner · · #45896

so I had to send the fee + the amount i wanted sent

AppleMiner · · #45897

instead of them saying...how much to send...we will add this fee. this is the total

AppleMiner · · #45898

so that error WAS on me, I was short like .1 ltcs

AppleMiner · · #45899

but I caught MY ERROR within that week, paid the extra and got the status changed to paid

AppleMiner · · #45900

Im not sure how you paid, but I stayed on top of it, and made sure the status changed and followed it every step

Minermoe · · #45901

Lol time for me to smoke a joint. Speaking to trolls who don’t know basic business practices and basic law is stressful

AppleMiner · · #45902

they cant be responsible for tracking 300K orders on their pages

AppleMiner · · #45903

mistakes WILL happen at such a large volume, 1 here 4 there. its going to happen

AppleMiner · · #45904

you think LEGO never sends out a package with 1 brick missing?

Minermoe · · #45905

Yes correct! They must fufill their contract. If not it’s a breach of contract

Minermoe · · #45906

Yea but you call LEGO, not only would they send you the missing piece,’they’ll send you a new product cause it’s easier, and they have someone you can talk to, email! And they will respond

Minermoe · · #45907

They are responsible for their business they conduct. If they can’t manage to handle customer emails, hire more staff! They should hire you since you are online literally 24.7

AppleMiner · · #45908

I dont speak chinese, and ill bet thats where most of their business is

Minermoe · · #45909

Seems like you speak Bitmain language perfectly fine.

Minermoe · · #45910

I would like to see you lose $30k, and still be smiling and saying it’s your fault

fallingcurtain · · #45911

ok im out of here again. Prohash 83% again.

fallingcurtain · · #45912

anyone know what the fee is for bitcoin withdrawl when its below min.

fallingcurtain · · #45913

got about $120 in bitcoin I want to pull out as it doesnt look like I can keep mining here until after thanksgiving

ZiGen · · #45914

Ask the bro’s ...probably the standard BTC fee - per byte...

ZiGen · · #45915

BUT the minimum is 0.002 BTC x $7000 = ~$14-15

ZiGen · · #45916

minimum withdrawal

nattylitecoin · · #45917

Any insight on the announcement tomorrow?

AppleMiner · · #45918

yes, it will happen...tomorrow.

ZiGen · · #45919

Apple, you forgot to add "hopefully" ... :D

joshn712 · · #45920

the worst kept secret

lovelyn30 · · #45921

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AppleMiner · · #45923

is it stable now?

pavvappav · · #45924

Its mostly stable. My network diagnostics are showing alot of TCP re transmissions from prohashing. I’m guessing their VPN is dropping UDP packets.

AppleMiner · · #45925

i would connect for 1 or 2 mins then get booted dead go to backup pools wait 5 mins sometimes reconnect back in

AppleMiner · · #45926

was like back in start of sept when i first started to mine here

AppleMiner · · #45927

i know there is was a worker cap in place, just seems like the instability is now also kicking my conencted miners off.

pavvappav · · #45928

My connections have been stable for going on 23 hours.

ZiGen · · #45929

Same here ...just rebooted all miners for god sake...

AppleMiner · · #45930

up and down on and off ZiGen?

pavvappav · · #45931

Who is your upstream provider? I’m routing out through Spectrum/TWC.

ZiGen · · #45932

Yep, not stable

AppleMiner · · #45933

let me connect remote and run a speed test

ZiGen · · #45934

I am on 100M Spectrum/ Brighthouse

AppleMiner · · #45935

havent had any issues in the past 2 months now

AppleMiner · · #45936

and still not on other pools

AppleMiner · · #45937

just getting popped off this one

AppleMiner · · #45938

100 down, 25 up

ZiGen · · #45939

The price of Bitcoin is more stable than this pool mining... :lol:

pavvappav · · #45940

Is it more stable if you only have 1 or 2 miners on PH?

pavvappav · · #45941

ouch

ZiGen · · #45942

Same shit with my 5 x L3+...random miner ...at the random time, like when I sleep ...got disconnected and is coming back online ...usually like half of hour to couple hours ...and the cycle is repeated with different miner at a different time... :?

ZiGen · · #45943

Strange ...

ZiGen · · #45944

My hash rate is fluctuating between 2.37G to 2.45G ...never 2.50-2.51G like 95% efficiency...

pavvappav · · #45945

Unfortunitely cgminer doesn’t have an option to shorten the alive check time, so you have to wait 5 minutes after a disconnect before it will resume.

pavvappav · · #45946

I’m seeing fluctuation in rates as well, chalked it up to load and network issues.

ZiGen · · #45947

my miner’s ping is :

ZiGen · · #45948

6 packets transmitted, 6 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 51.029/52.542/55.693 ms