Chat archive · 2017-09
Bitatlas · · #24194
must be a bug
has started a new topic: One-time balance forfeitures today
has started a new topic: Status as of Thursday, September 14, 2017
abcvladislav · · #24197
@Steve Sokolowski : where is my balance? 320$. im started solo mining 3 days ago! Pls return my balance!
has started a new topic: Upcoming maintenance on Friday night
Steve Sokolowski · · #24199
abcvladislav wrote: @Steve Sokolowski : where is my balance? 320$. im started solo mining 3 days ago! Pls return my balance!You were overpaid and forfeited a portion of the overpayment. See the "one time balance forfeitures today" thread.
abcvladislav · · #24200
@Steve Sokolowski : my login abcvladislavbit
abcvladislav · · #24201
@Steve Sokolowski : you overpaid me $300 for 3 days? 
mycide · · #24202
no.. All my funds was forfeited at some point not just a portion of my earning.
abcvladislav · · #24203
@Steve Sokolowski : what about ticket #01596?
mycide · · #24204
i solo mined DGB but at most earned around 225usd one day, then second day i recieved only 1 block solo mining compared to what 8-9 or something. so one day i made 222 usd second day almost nothing. then i stopped solo mining went back to PPS. you saying my two solo days i was supposed to have 0 funds payed out?
mycide · · #24205
because you pulled like 200 usd from me.
abcvladislav · · #24206
no proof the overpayment. I can say anything, also.....
mycide · · #24207
dgb blocks statistics showed me one block every 0.07 days with some fluctuations
mycide · · #24208
so it would be really crazy for no reward for two days
mycide · · #24209
@Steve Sokolowski This is not right, the math does not add up
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24210
Math definitely does not add up, we need to see more details
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24211
Plus, I was solo mining but often not getting the blocks expected over a reasonable averaging period
Morbiduzz · · #24212
@Steve Sokolowski : ok al the debate, but the pool is off at the moment, can someone restart it please!! 
Steve Sokolowski · · #24213
Morbiduzz wrote: @Steve Sokolowski : ok al the debate, but the pool is off at the moment, can someone restart it please!!I don’t have access right now to do that, but I also don’t see anything wrong
Steve Sokolowski · · #24214
as to the forfeitures - I understand that people might be disappointed, but please remember that you earned about $200,000 more than was promised
Steve Sokolowski · · #24215
I personally would not be complaining if I were one of the people affected by this issue
Morbiduzz · · #24216
@Steve Sokolowski : Pool is dead for my miners actually?? the are on backup pool actually
abcvladislav · · #24217
Steve Sokolowski wrote: as to the forfeitures - I understand that people might be disappointed, but please remember that you earned about $200,000 more than was promised
I earned $ 300 less. The payment for the solo block is fixed, how could I earn more?UPSoft · · #24218
fuck it! it was ur mistake or error... and i was asking you Steve about it i chat. i spent all money on NH and dont earn 200k$ from you. i got 0 now.
abcvladislav · · #24219
@Steve Sokolowski : I do not want to pay for anyone who has earned more. You must provide users with statistics.
Broederbit · · #24220
pool is dead for me too, both miners can’t connect, if one is on the other goes to backup pool
UPSoft · · #24221
gimme atleast my fount block back! i dont neew any additional payments! I was told thats merged-mined block reward and i I was calm... now you took everything
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24222
No way in the world I earned 70% extra mining solo, show us the numbers
Morbiduzz · · #24223
@Steve Sokolowski : Please restart the pool, I don't like mining on NH 
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24224
If I was getting 70% extra then what I would be getting now does not make it worth it to be here
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24225
About 200k you say, so you do not even really know how much it sounds like.
mycide · · #24226
those 40% constituted all i potentially solo mined for 2 days here with statistics saying Days to generate one block mining solo: 0.08 Day considering price for DGB back then was 400 satoshis aswell...
mycide · · #24227
if you would have pulled what you claim 100% that would have been 450 usd, that much i never ever recieved solo mining..
mycide · · #24228
or even 500 usd..
mycide · · #24229
and you didnt pull part of me earnings all my profits were forfeited.
Steve Sokolowski · · #24230
bluelemonadecrypto wrote: About 200k you say, so you do not even really know how much it sounds like.The exact amount of money is detailed in the "one time balance forfeitures" thread
Steve Sokolowski · · #24231
if anyone has questions about a specific account, feel free to submit a support ticket to Chris for further investigation
Steve Sokolowski · · #24233
oops, I accidentally deleted one post by upssoft
Steve Sokolowski · · #24234
wrong button
mycide · · #24235
but if i solo mined for 2 days and i made around 250 usd during this time, how can you claim you only forfeited 40% of what you payed me wrongly? if 100% would be more then twice i ever recieved solo mining.
mycide · · #24236
alos meaning that im a statistacal anomoly not recieving a single block with Days to generate one block mining solo: 0.08 Day this stats.
mycide · · #24237
unbelieveable
Steve Sokolowski · · #24238
mycide wrote: but if i solo mined for 2 days and i made around 250 usd during this time, how can you claim you only forfeited 40% of what you payed me wrongly? if 100% would be more then twice i ever recieved solo mining.add the total money solo mined from August 27 to Sept 13, then take 40% of that, and the forfeitures were either that total or everything you had in your account, whichever was greater
Steve Sokolowski · · #24239
if it turns out that you earned a lot more from August 27 to September 13 than you forfeited, then congratulations, you made a lot of money
mycide · · #24240
you say it only effect solo miners, and i only solo mined for a few days and the mount forfeited is all i earned during this time, and you claim its stil only 40% of what you should have taken from me, wich is not correct. 100% would mean 450-500 usd atleast and that amount i have never recied solo mining.
mycide · · #24241
help me to understand how its possible.
Kuduzela · · #24242
Profits had reduced
mycide · · #24243
i know profits are down, i know prices are down difficulty is up. i been mining since 2014, i know how it is working.
mycide · · #24244
if i exchange all that was forfeited it end up the same as what i earned solo mining. meaning i was supposed to recieve about 0 blocks during my 2 days. with Days to generate one block mining solo: 0.08 Day those numbers are hard to believe.
mycide · · #24245
and then on top claim its only 40% really
mycide · · #24246
earth is flat aswell i guess
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24247
Steve Sokolowski wrote:so why not do detailed reconciliation s for each miner then as some will be penalised unfairly and some paid extra unfairly, and you still have not explained what the ’extra’ was, I have some idea but want to hear it from you can in exact detail, along with why there was no daily reconciliation of your accounts prior to payout, it starts to sound like a Mt Gox scenario, testing code on usersbluelemonadecrypto wrote: About 200k you say, so you do not even really know how much it sounds like.The exact amount of money is detailed in the "one time balance forfeitures" thread
joshn712 · · #24248
Steve Sokolowski wrote: if it turns out that you earned a lot more from August 27 to September 13 than you forfeited, then congratulations, you made a lot of moneyThe true problem is that Steve is an Arrogant Dick. There are ways to handle things and to explain things, and this is what is know as "little man syndrome"
mycide · · #24249
It tunrs out i made a lot more... how can it turn out to make a lot more then i ever recieved in payouts from the pool...ä
mycide · · #24250
for solo
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24251
This is not how a mistake is corrected, it sounds like a better explanation in much more detail better be provided or the authorities may need to be involved
mycide · · #24252
i dont accept it, your systems been bugged and fucked for a long time. your math does not add up, and you tell me to take your word for it..
UPSoft · · #24253
if it was your error just fix it. why you take all money from users
bronxnua · · #24254
Forfeit Litecoin -0.08067857 Forfeited balance 9/14/2017 Forfeit Centurion 0.00000000 Forfeited balance 9/14/2017
bronxnua · · #24255
why was my account forfeited?
mycide · · #24256
becase they claim the pool credited you to much for your time solo mining. in my case they forefeited all i ever earned solo mining. and still they claim its only 40% of what they should claim back from us... makes no sense to me.
UPSoft · · #24257
i psent all i got to rent from NH and i dont get eny extra huge alot of money
bronxnua · · #24258
that is bogus
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24259
This forfeit debacle is not the only issue, I have been collecting evidence for the last week to suggest not all hash power is deployed as suggested when solo mining
bronxnua · · #24260
seems x11 is got going to work well here
UPSoft · · #24261
how to see this chat history ?
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24262
Today I pointed 8 Ghash at Florincoin for over two hours when the entire network was at 50, 2 hours is enough time 360 blocks to be found at 40 seconds and my 8 Ghash never showed on the block explorer during that time
mycide · · #24263
@Steve Sokolowski you got money problems? making 100k usd a day+ the way you handled this is not cool.
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24264
They are not making 100k a day, more like 6k based on 4.5% fees on payouts shown,see server costs etc, but still not bad money, I reckon over a mill a year in hand
UPSoft · · #24265
any1 know how i can see this chat history
mycide · · #24266
one more fuck up like this and im out.
mycide · · #24267
yeah i recon, 5% of pool total
mycide · · #24268
not bad for a hobby...
UPSoft · · #24269
pool total its 95%. so total/95*5-trans.fees
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24270
Plus the "restart penalties" that seems bogus as well, w
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24271
They add up, is it just another % to shave
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24272
When it comes to fees, note that litecoinpool.org charge zero fees and pay out 102% of PPS since merged mining started, so prohash are probably making more than
lilbob · · #24273
woa woa guys
lilbob · · #24274
check out the forums from before june to now, check the earninings per day
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24275
for what?
lilbob · · #24276
it is a work in progress, all the new guys took the the architecture by surprise
lilbob · · #24277
for the history of earnings, new server implementations... there is no skimming
lilbob · · #24278
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lilbob · · #24279
even novaexchange and cryptopia n yobit got hit during the june boost
lilbob · · #24280
had to priotize servers, make adaptions, our two bro’s here managed to set up their server boost 2 weeks before everyone had their problems... they are ahead of the game 
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24281
i am just looking at the profit report now and I can’t see anywhere where the amount of difference they are talking about shows, esp as I was mining solo on Florincoin and paid out totally in Florincoin so if they gave me too much Florincoin, where did the extra come from?
lilbob · · #24282
wait did i miss something?
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24283
they decided to keep the daysd mining gains for themseleves from 120 miners
lilbob · · #24284
ooo you mean 10% etc?
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24285
no I mean the entire days take for 120 people, some people out 13k
lilbob · · #24286
yaya here lemme give you a screen shot of how they paid back after two weeks of ddos and all
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24287
see support and feedback, "forfeited balance"
lilbob · · #24288
umm, in terms of programing, tweaks to payoutsystem, i can easily see an unforseen consequence. but never think they are trying to run away from any responsibility eh?
lilbob · · #24289
from the signs and our other chats , we can see they are working on the problem now
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24290
it ran for a month like this before they realised
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24291
and claimed 70% extra profits which many people say they did not see that much
lilbob · · #24292
o by the way, you should join prohashing slack channel
bluelemonadecrypto · · #24293
the penalty is no way prorata to the gain, if indeed it is 70% not all mined solo for th ewhole month, etc etc etc
lilbob · · #24294