Chat archive · 2017-09

bluelemonadecrypto · · #23994

all very quite, no hashing going down at prohashing....

bluelemonadecrypto · · #23995

quiet

portalindo · · #23996

@upsoft, mind if you are sharing your password command with us here?

Bitatlas · · #23997

why?

portalindo · · #23998

why? to get better delta and no shares reject

bluelemonadecrypto · · #23999

and no word here or twitter

rteja99 · · #24000

why is the pool down

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24001

starting to smell like exit scam

Bitatlas · · #24002

But who disconnected? Prohashing? My delta is ok i guess...

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24003

no hashing is occuring whatsoever

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24004

by anyone

rteja99 · · #24005

well

rteja99 · · #24006

i dont know about that

portalindo · · #24007

yeah zero workers

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24008

zero admins

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24009

zero news

Bitatlas · · #24010

Calm down guys, it’s quite early in USA... they are sleeping!

rteja99 · · #24011

i thought they were from russia

portalindo · · #24012

damn, my first day using it and facing a problem right away :(

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24013

last block I found was a Gulden...

Bitatlas · · #24014

The server time zone is California... but not sure where they are from

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24015

so I am in Oz, my miners can’t connect and neither can nicehash

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24016

been saying I got to run my own private pool for a while now, this might just do it

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24017

to push me over the edge

Morbiduzz · · #24018

Pool is off again damn!!

Bitatlas · · #24019

@Morbiduzz, when it was down for the last time?

Morbiduzz · · #24020

@Bitatlas :  just discovered now I was away from my PC

lilbob · · #24021

they are on east coast, aprox 5:00 in the morning there now

Morbiduzz · · #24022

ok disconnected 46 mi ago 10:06 gmt+1

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24023

very shortly after they forfeited my balances

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24024

and other apparantly

Morbiduzz · · #24025

@bluelemonadecrypto :  forfeit my balance too why??

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24026

it would appear based on the help that "unlucky" miners forfeit balances to the rest of the pool, some algorithm is supposed to detect it

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24027

soemthing about false hashing or something, too busy to follow up right now

Morbiduzz · · #24028

@bluelemonadecrypto :  Unluky?? :shock:

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24029

Some miners have unreasonably low luck. While all miners can have streaks of poor luck in finding blocks, some mining rigs are so unlucky that the number of blocks they submit to the pool are far fewer than what would otherwise be expected. These miners exhibit characteristics that allow Prohashing to identify them as "unreasonably low luck miners."

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24030

It isn’t clear why some mining rigs exhibit low luck, although it has been suggested in some forums that the low luck results from cloud hashing services that rent out miners from owners who use buggy software. Therefore, the victim of low-luck miners often has no idea that the hashrate he is renting is providing less mining power than what he is paying for. Be careful to only rent miners from reputable cloud mining services and look twice if the price seems too good to be true.

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24031

The balances of low-luck miners earned during the previous day are forfeit and credited to the remaining miners as "socialized losses." The odds of a false-positive forfeiture are estimated to be around 1 in 10,000, which means that normal miners would expect to forfeit one day’s earnings in 30 years of mining, whereas low-luck miners will often find themselves forfeiting balances on consecutive days. If the low-luck algorithm issues a forfeiture against your account, E-Mail Chris and he can assist in tuning your miners so that the problem is resolved quickly.

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24032

from the help page

Bitatlas · · #24033

Hum... what about PPS system? all miners have the same luck, according to the shares they submit

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24034

what hey are saying is the shares submitted don’t line up with reasonably expected block finds then maybe the shares are not genuine, or maybe some genuine mixed with some non genuine

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24035

so in that case that miner is deemed to be gaming the system by submitting a significant portiono of shares that are not actually even calculated (or similar) do not doing work so not getting reqrded

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24036

if you catch my drift

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24037

but I drew their attention a few days ago to some unregular behaviour I was observing with my miners - L3+

Bitatlas · · #24038

I see

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24039

something has been a little off here for at least a few days, was still trying to work it out today so rented some NH hash power to test out some theories

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24040

on a particular solo mine coin

Bitatlas · · #24041

I’m also testing my NH theories

Bitatlas · · #24042

what coin are you solo mining?

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24043

not sure I should say, or is everyone onto the deal?

Bitatlas · · #24044

at this moment we are the only online here...

Bitatlas · · #24045

anyway, I was asking because unless you have a huge hash power, solo mining usually is not so profitable as pool mining

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24046

that is the point, done right on the right coin with the right hash and merge mined is significantly more profitable

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24047

than auto coin hopping

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24048

but as a result of this I encountered some irregularities that don’t add up - could just my understanding of the way a few things worked with that coin, still working thru it today

Morbiduzz · · #24049

@bluelemonadecrypto :  I have two L3+ Probably I'm not Unluky but dont like this forfait policy, if you have bad Hardware its your fault, no earning for you i'm sorry..

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24050

could just be my

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24051

I think it is possible to "enhance" your hash power you sell to a hash renter with random guesses, this would detect such things

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24052

if so inclined you might be able to double or triple your return from hash selling it on because you don’t care about finding blocks if you just renting straight hash power

Bitatlas · · #24053

@Morbiduzz, you are saying that the L3 is a bad hardware?

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24054

I think you are totally missing my point

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24055

bad people migh pretend to be selling you hashing when they are only selling you random numbers

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24056

they get paid, you don’t find blocks and don’t get coins, or you get shares in PPS that you don;t deserve because your guesses were only partially valid

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24057

so something like that, as is my understanding

Bitatlas · · #24058

you already saw that happening in NH?

Morbiduzz · · #24059

@Bitatlas :  not exactly opposite

Morbiduzz · · #24060

My miners actually switched to NH Backup pool :roll:

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24061

mine fall back to litecoinpool - lower returns but totally solid all the time

Bitatlas · · #24062

what is the NH backup pool?

Morbiduzz · · #24063

@Bitatlas :  just the second configured pool on my miners in case the first preferred one fail like now :cry:

UPSoft · · #24064

The balances of low-luck miners earned during the previous day are forfeit and credited to the remaining miners as "socialized losses." Any 1 got it ???

Bitatlas · · #24065

oh i see

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24066

yes - if you have been claiming share but noit finding blocks then it is construed that your hashing is not real hashing but just random number submitted to get shares for no real work done

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24067

is how I understand it

UPSoft · · #24068

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24069

they just processed a share, two blocks found

Morbiduzz · · #24070

Hoooo pool started workin again now :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Morbiduzz · · #24071

want tons of block finding? lower set a lower difficulty aroun 32K-65K

Bitatlas · · #24072

hooah!!!

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24073

someone just found a dash block, $527

Bitatlas · · #24074

@UPSoft, you found those blocks solo?

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24075

I am only really seeing a few blocks, Gamecredit and Florincoin

Bitatlas · · #24076

I already found some Dash blocks but pool mining

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24077

1 dash

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24078

2 digibyte

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24079

blocks starting to flow now

Bitatlas · · #24080

BTW, everytime I sum the block I find, the profit is always lower than what I get from pool mining

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24081

another gamecredit

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24082

suss

JKDReaper · · #24083

Guys if your new here or not...There was some sort of system failure that caused the forfeits...Its not designed this way like some are saying...Thats ridiculous

UPSoft · · #24084

@Bitatlas :  yes there is a Flag its mean solo

Morbiduzz · · #24085

@JKDReaper :  I'm new and never seen anithing like tath :shock:

JKDReaper · · #24086

Finding blocks helps you ZERO compared to if you dont unless you are solo mining. Prohashing pays you for your shares, not found blocks.

Bitatlas · · #24087

Nice @UPSoft!

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24088

this is the point of the unlucky miner clasue

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24089

clause

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24090

and anyway, some people solo mine

UPSoft · · #24091

@Bitatlas :  and there was more block for yesteday and now ALL my balance Forfeited https://i.imgur.com/jV8lWmZ.png

JKDReaper · · #24092

@Morbiduzz :  ya, thats what i mean. It is something gone wrong in their system. Go to support.Prohashing.com and submit a ticket

bluelemonadecrypto · · #24093

how many hash you run @UPSoft?