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Chat archive · 2017-08

asodoco · · #18930

with 5gh?

FRISKIE · · #18931

@lilbob - front end is back for you?

FRISKIE · · #18932

@asodoco - if you are prepared to interact as a responsible community member, just say the word and I’ll give you the guidance to get up and running

asodoco · · #18933

yes

asodoco · · #18934

i m sorry

FRISKIE · · #18935

Its fine, we all need to work together, Now the abuse of some users that were using NiceHash accounts caused the admins to have to make some emergency settings changes

lilbob · · #18936

sry firefox is crashing

FRISKIE · · #18937

These settings affect users that are submitting too many shares too quiclkly

FRISKIE · · #18938

So what that means for us right now, when we setup a NiceHash (NH) order?

MglMogul9 · · #18939

is the sitedown?

FRISKIE · · #18940

1 - don’t set a single order up with very high GH/s , I find that right now it is best to run multiple orders of no more than 1 GH/s each

lilbob · · #18941

@friskie popped up for a second... seems checking on android works more often, cant sign in though

FRISKIE · · #18942

As for the difficulty settings

asodoco · · #18943

ah ok, but i see an high delta i think that is prohashing because isn’t stable so i need wait when the server is stable (When will be stable?)

FRISKIE · · #18944

I recommend to use dif. of 65536 for every 1 GH/s

FRISKIE · · #18945

In your case it seems a combination of factors, so please, first things first :)

asodoco · · #18946

ok but with 5 gh i have set about 32k of difficutl but on the page i see 16k

FRISKIE · · #18947

What happens if you do not have high enough difficulty set, the system will automatically switch you over to var. diff.

FRISKIE · · #18948

And the difficulty will climb to 500k

FRISKIE · · #18949

So, no. 1 DO NOT SET 5GH/s orders!

asodoco · · #18950

now i have 0 order

FRISKIE · · #18951

As I said, for now, max of 1 GH/s and use d=65536 for that order

FRISKIE · · #18952

If you want more GH/s setup more orders to run concurrently,

FRISKIE · · #18953

Now, that said - the server is running horribly right now, so even with those settings I gave you, it’s a toss-up if you will be profitable

asodoco · · #18954

when will it be stable?

FRISKIE · · #18955

But best advice - do this, setup an order of either 0.5 GH/s , or max 1 GH/s with the settings I gave you, and watch the performance, this will show you a "baseline" of sorts for how the server is behaving at the moment

gjaramillo · · #18956

"Moving our servers to a new hosting location to improve reliability. Downtime less than 5 minutes, but you will need to update your DNS." hi guys, how do i update my DNS? do we need to do this?

asodoco · · #18957

which is the best setup for delta (so with g off and h limit)

FRISKIE · · #18958

In this way you have ruled out any factors related to improper setup, and you see what is currently "normal"

FRISKIE · · #18959

d=65536 g=off h=1000

asodoco · · #18960

without " , " ?

asodoco · · #18961

i mean d=65536, g=off, h=1000

FRISKIE · · #18962

When will the server be running well again? I wish I knew mate, we’re all really frustrated here about that one

FRISKIE · · #18963

no need for ,

asodoco · · #18964

but h 1000 isn’t high?

FRISKIE · · #18965

It is high, yes

gjaramillo · · #18966

seem like the miner is working but no access to main page

FRISKIE · · #18967

Same for us all I think :(

FRISKIE · · #18968

No access to main page, always something here . . have to get used to it :(

asodoco · · #18969

i have tried the pool verificator and with d=65536 i receive Received mining.set_difficulty... OK: difficulty=16384

FRISKIE · · #18970

Mate, do what you want, enjoy.

asodoco · · #18971

so if a set 65k of difficult i receive 16k

FRISKIE · · #18972

just a sec, I will get you exactly what to enter in PW

asodoco · · #18973

no sorry now wworks thank you very much friskie, i always set with " , " now without " , " works

asodoco · · #18974

i love you ahahhah

Steve Sokolowski · · #18975

Chris to deploy next phase of updates in an hour or so

FRISKIE · · #18976

Great Steve

FRISKIE · · #18977

Ok , start yourself with just a 0.5 GH/s to test, and use these PW arguments

FRISKIE · · #18978

d=32768 h=1000 g=off n=worker_name

asodoco · · #18979

ok what is n?

FRISKIE · · #18980

Regardless what the verificator says, just set it up that way :)

FRISKIE · · #18981

n= just put your worker name in there, or leave it out if you only will run 1 worker

asodoco · · #18982

ok thank you

FRISKIE · · #18983

I would advise to use workers though, for example setup multiple orders with n=worker_1

lilbob · · #18984

thanks steve

asodoco · · #18985

now the site works

FRISKIE · · #18986

next with n=worker_2 etc.

asodoco · · #18987

ok

FRISKIE · · #18988

Because as I was saying before, with the current difficulty limitations, you will need to run several smaller orders that behave well, in order to add up to the desired hashrate

asodoco · · #18989

ok delta -2 % it’s good?

FRISKIE · · #18990

Well, ideally the green and red deltas even out over time, but that’s not terrible for now anyway

asodoco · · #18991

ah no now -11%

FRISKIE · · #18992

No panic mate, it’s most important to let an order run for a bit, then see how it averages over time

asodoco · · #18993

ok, i think that is the serve unstable

FRISKIE · · #18994

Yes, this is correct.

FRISKIE · · #18995

But now you have the proper settings, and you are ready to go once the server is running smoothly again :)

asodoco · · #18996

yes, thank you very much i hope that in the afternoon the server is stabl2

FRISKIE · · #18997

Well, considering it has been unstable in this similar way for several weeks now, I would think that may be optimistic

FRISKIE · · #18998

Keep in mind this is behavior and instability we see when running orders from NH, some others with various hardware miners report that they are profitable, others not, so the results seem mixed

asodoco · · #18999

for weeks? anyway 3-4 days ago i have tried and works perfectl9

asodoco · · #19000

ah ok

FRISKIE · · #19001

I too occasionally hit those moments where all runs perfectly, then it goes to hell.

asodoco · · #19002

ok

FRISKIE · · #19003

For your own background, NH is infested with bots that are monitoring the profitability data here on PH. When the profit rises, those bots kick in and send more hashpower over and overload the server.

asodoco · · #19004

which is the best price for order on nicehash? for have a profit with prohashing

FRISKIE · · #19005

This has been an ongoing nightmare for weeks, and has a lot to do with why the server runs well for a while, then gets overloaded and shares fall behind, coin switching is affected and all goes to hell.

Steve Sokolowski · · #19006

FRISKIE wrote: For your own background, NH is infested with bots that are monitoring the profitability data here on PH. When the profit rises, those bots kick in and send more hashpower over and overload the server.
This isn’t true - see the FAQ for more information

FRISKIE · · #19007

I’ll argue with you till my deathbed on that point Steve

FRISKIE · · #19008

And offer up meticulous proof, and test cases so everyone can see this for themselves.

FRISKIE · · #19009

Screw your FAQ if it says otherwise

asodoco · · #19010

i think that on nicehash there are fake orders, i see some order with 0.05 for gh/S

dc101 · · #19011

Is everything back to normal yet? Thanks

Steve Sokolowski · · #19012

dc101 wrote: Is everything back to normal yet? Thanks
In what way? The connectivity problems seem to have been resolved by the attack protection migration

Steve Sokolowski · · #19013

There are some additional fixes going out in 30m

asodoco · · #19014

i have now the problem with connect the miners

FRISKIE · · #19015

@Steve - if what you mean is that PH is finally taking measure to mitigate this activity, then great - and you should clarify it this way, rather than calling my statement wrong

FRISKIE · · #19016

Anyway, many of us have wondered out loud for a long time now why you insist on trying to cover up and defend the activities of the NH bots. Peculiar indeed Steve

Steve Sokolowski · · #19017

FRISKIE, please stop with conspiracy theories

Steve Sokolowski · · #19018

we are taking no measures, I’ve made that clear

asodoco · · #19019

delta +10% wow, so steve in about 30 minutes the server wil be ok at 100%?

Steve Sokolowski · · #19020

maybe not at 100%, but we hope to see improvement

asodoco · · #19021

ok thanks

Steve Sokolowski · · #19022

but not in NiceHash deltas

Steve Sokolowski · · #19023

that’s not an issue but a way the system works

asodoco · · #19024

ok anyway now i see +10, before -40 -50 - 90 - 10 XD

Steve Sokolowski · · #19025

I’ll have to ask you to leave, FRISKIE

FRISKIE · · #19026

I wouldnt call it a conspiracy to consider that you guys are likely mining your own server with help of the NH bots to maximize profits, are you?

Steve Sokolowski · · #19027

these are false accusations

FRISKIE · · #19028

Its a question mate

Steve Sokolowski · · #19029

I answered the question - it’s false, and we aren’t going to be talking to you anymore or answering your questions