Chat archive · 2017-06

sirslayerjr · · #5470

your on drugs.. come back sober . please

GregoryGHarding · · #5471

go ahead and download the prohashing bot, let me know how you make out

GregoryGHarding · · #5472

someone talk some sense into this guy please

sirslayerjr · · #5473

Write NiceHash bot, make lots of profit

sirslayerjr · · #5474

oh, i get it.. its not a bot .. it can be used for bots , help bots collect data.. its not a bot.. it to assist a bot.. for bots

sirslayerjr · · #5475

If programmed conservatively, this bot should never be at risk of losing money. During times of high profitability, profits here often soar to 33% above NiceHash. That should never happen, because a bot like this can drive a significant portion of NiceHash’s hashrate here during those times up to the point that NiceHash’s rate equalizes.... sounds like a bot

sirslayerjr · · #5476

and greg you said there are no bots??

Forum notification · · #5477

fattygrub · · #5478

These are OBVIOUSLY bots if you watch nicehash :orders: move up and down over a period.i think the nicehashbots are hurting nicehash. i have thought that we should (at nicehash) pick a price and stck to it...not move..like a union

sirslayerjr · · #5479

good idea

fattygrub · · #5480

if last three days at prohashing pays .0400 go for standard orders at .0296 and NOBODY MOVE from that.. then wjat do ya’ll think will happen

fattygrub · · #5481

i have watched the EU orders closely, i think the EU peeps do this... kind of

sirslayerjr · · #5482

if nicehash not involved with prohashing, then how are their bots know prohashing rate value ?? sounds like a connection or a rouge user

sirslayerjr · · #5483

i use eu always cheaper and more miners

sirslayerjr · · #5484

0.02 or less would be ideal but unrealistic due to bots

sirslayerjr · · #5485

0.29 is fair and we can always inch it down a bit in time

sirslayerjr · · #5486

believe me the more we chat about bots usages , it should either slow down or get worse

fattygrub · · #5487

right. i want my own bot. but i want to move with market, not knee jerk flucuations which is what have observed them doing. bots have no intelligence (yet). lets do this: average last three days profits at prohashing, buy fixed or standard orders below prohashing for below your percentage ( i work at 25%), then DONT move!!! let try it.

sirslayerjr · · #5488

Scrypt: 11.68¢ ·

GregoryGHarding · · #5489

do we have an ETA on random bicoin earnings fix?

GregoryGHarding · · #5490

bitcoin*

Steve Sokolowski · · #5491

GregoryGHarding wrote: exactly, stay on fucking topic, prohashing colluding with nicehash is off topic, and wrong
Someone has written a bot using the WAMP data we provide. We asked them to, in the "write NiceHash bot, make lots of profit" thread. If you want to write your own to compete with whoever wrote those bots, look at "WAMP" in the documentation.

GregoryGHarding · · #5492

im aware of that itspurpose is to buy hashpower at a good profit, not to manuplate the system

sirslayerjr · · #5493

steve , a few of is have an issue on renting at nicehash . seems like a few user are taking this to extreme. If programmed conservatively, this bot should never be at risk of losing money. During times of high profitability, profits here often soar to 33% above NiceHash. That should never happen, because a bot like this can drive a significant portion of NiceHash’s hashrate here during those times up to the point that NiceHash’s rate equalizes.. prices on nicehash for scrypt rentals are out of control and seems like a few user may of going above your intentions

sirslayerjr · · #5494

and what ive observed is when prohashing rates are good and up for a few minutes .. like 1.00 good.. you can see the bots fighting each other and the prices are high for a while

sirslayerjr · · #5495

$1.00 is what i ment

sirslayerjr · · #5496

so when it drops back down to 7 cents after a one dollar fever, all of us are affect by higher prices from that

sirslayerjr · · #5497

as in hashing prices from nicehash goes up and we all get screwed

sirslayerjr · · #5498

and lately theirs been a lot of bad bots , more then usual

sirslayerjr · · #5499

and i still love prohashing.com !!!

mjgraham · · #5500

the fact is there are APIs to automate tasks , everyone wants to make money, some people want it all, do I have a bot , well I am not sure I call this software I have spent months working on a bot, some might, am I happy when I get up in the morning and see I lost $500 due to a programming error I made , sometime I make money and yes I have noticed a lot of "take all" bots running I see 4 orders running at the same time set to 900+ just to make sure no one gets anything yes I don’t think that is fair at all but what can we do. does it drive the nicehash fixed rate out the roof, of course it does , look at how it is calculated one of the variables it total available hashrate that includes fixed and dynamic, so when someone buys it all up the price goes up. Now in theory if you could connect 500Gh to nicehash should drive the price down get a fixed order then move them somewhere else after you get your order in. I might have even been to cause some of the problem, one of the times I was pouring money down the hole I noticed I was sending 147 Gh/s but I had a problem that kept going after the rate dropped. Maybe everyone else’s bots are grand and "set and forget" but mine is more of a tool to automate me clicking things. I still make graphs, watch charts , do research, maybe this is long winded and not really needed but I have see way to much bashing stuff today. Chris and Steve have a good setup sure maybe it has grown fast here lately but they are trying I am sure they have other things to work on, and I do get frustrated when things crap out and I loose , but so far they have always adjusted things when it was on their end and not to many places do that.

mickeekung · · #5501

https://prohashing.com/ This site can’t be reached prohashing.com refused to connect. Try: Checking the connection Checking the proxy and the firewall ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED

mjgraham · · #5502

sorry typed a long winded reply and the main page goes down :) go figure

sirslayerjr · · #5503

sirslayerjr · · #5504

oh ok..

tmopar · · #5505

relax its widespread

tmopar · · #5506

i got it too

sirslayerjr · · #5507

thank you for your insite mjgranham.. do you plan to sell your software , let us know!!!

sirslayerjr · · #5508

well if we can all acknowledge or at least agree not to push for higher rates when prohashing rates are good would be nice to see ..

sirslayerjr · · #5509

and i know, keep dreaming

sirslayerjr · · #5510

a nicehash dont support price stepping .

sirslayerjr · · #5511

thats why its call nicehash??? lol

mjgraham · · #5512

maybe I am not clear, what is price stepping that you are referring to?

siberianbreaks · · #5513

website down?

GregoryGHarding · · #5514

yes

siberianbreaks · · #5515

thank you

GregoryGHarding · · #5516

website is first point of failure when server is backlogged, probably do to payout scrypts or vacuuming database

GregoryGHarding · · #5517

its the least important

FRISKIE · · #5518

Someone has written a bot using the WAMP data we provide. We asked them to, in the "write NiceHash bot, make lots of profit" thread. If you want to write your own to compete with whoever wrote those bots, look at "WAMP" in the documentation.
Jesus Steve! For the love of god, this "collusion" has been used to totally dominate the entire pricing structure and destroy every last bit of the market's ability to set prices! How about you go on over to NH and spend a while observing the end result?!?

GregoryGHarding · · #5519

youre killing me with sarcasm

GregoryGHarding · · #5520

@Steve Sokolowski :  dont know if youve noticed but the forums have been up and down lately, almost as if NIC made no difference

GregoryGHarding · · #5521

anyone else other than me having those issues?

GAWminer27 · · #5522

anyone have an eta of site waking up?

GregoryGHarding · · #5523

usualy 4 hours after 00:00 EST

GregoryGHarding · · #5524

but nthreads on database vacuum causes da cleaning to be slower so it might be longer, but shares are going fine

sirslayerjr · · #5525

finally, i was able to login.. im in the west coast

fattygrub · · #5526

@ sirslayerjr, you still logged in?? gettin nothing here...arg

tmopar · · #5527

Southeast confirming site still down

sirslayerjr · · #5528

not anymore.. we just got to wait and see..

sirslayerjr · · #5529

and who is GregoryGHarding?? does he work at prohashing or some where. should we worry?

tmopar · · #5530

no

sirslayerjr · · #5531

ty. lol

mickeekung · · #5532

site is up right now.

fattygrub · · #5533

logged in now, payout good .. in PA

tmopar · · #5534

fatty you renting or mining

fattygrub · · #5535

nicehash

AvPro · · #5536

Are balances up to date on website?

tmopar · · #5537

i think so the earnings bars look right

tmopar · · #5538

graphic

sirslayerjr · · #5539

yes a lot better

sirslayerjr · · #5540

well at least all my deposit did arrive at the same time

FRISKIE · · #5541

@ sirslayerjr - It would seem I owe you an apology. Steve has posted this comment earlier which does indeed support your version of bots price setting depending on the rise and fall in Prohashing profitability - "We asked them to, in the "write NiceHash bot, make lots of profit" thread." - please accept my apology then for any comment I may have personally posted which may have been unsupportive. - FRISKIE

sirslayerjr · · #5542

ty , you’e the man!! and the same here if i did offended you. Your other friends , idk about him..

piet · · #5543

the pool was down a couple of minutes...9:10 - 9:13

FRISKIE · · #5544

and the same here if i did offended you
not offended at all :)

GAWminer27 · · #5545

just started back mining, dont like to mine blind....but so far .....beautiful..slick mining!!!!

lilbob · · #5546

enjoy the ride today, 1337 is flowing again, so btc and ltc will be moving faster in smaller quantities between exchanges. prices should be more consistent.

tmopar · · #5547

flowing again?

FRISKIE · · #5548

815.09 GH/s :-o

lilbob · · #5549

it was stopped yesterday by exchanges mandatory wallet update for about 8 hours. started transfering again approx6 hours ago approx

lilbob · · #5550

since about 2 days ago, 1337 coin holders have orchestrated a market establishing push. I began trading it at 0.00000080 LTC. It rose up to 0.00001400 before the wallet problems began.

lilbob · · #5551

it alows smaller movements, basicaly like litedoge, but with a 0.002 transfer fee

lilbob · · #5552

keep an eye on it.. it also serves as a good market indicator, as people will be using it, providing the unforseen source for incoming LTC/BTC to the exchange

AvPro · · #5553

Anyone know if BitConnect coin is back enabled?

tmopar · · #5554

mining right now

tmopar · · #5555

actuallyt on my scope

sirslayerjr · · #5556

dang, prohashing scrypt payrate is blank.. i cant compete against those bots

FRISKIE · · #5557

@ Steve & Chris - will need to double check shares, as there's about an hours worth that accumulated while the site was down, but I see no evidence that are being written.

sirslayerjr · · #5558

i stopped mining about an half hour ago and my balance was frozen made me stop... now i see my balance growing like i had started to mined again which i havent yet.. now that explains accounts being used by other miners . its was my mining that i did over an hour ago.. its just caught up a hour later and acts like youre still mining . like instance reply

sirslayerjr · · #5559

11.68¢ @ prohashing ... rentals at nicehash @ 0.0302

FRISKIE · · #5560

Yep, that's the really frustrating behavior when the system gets behind, impossible to judge profit and performance until it all catches up - just hoping it's all ok behind the scenes and will add up to a profit when it finally catches up.

VanessaEzekowitz · · #5561

With the site bugging like this, and having had to settle at that higher price (0.0315) on NH to get any power thanks to those G*d damned bots, I can’t tell if I’m gonna make any profit on this first go-round :-/

sirslayerjr · · #5562

now prohash is at Scrypt: 9.31... nicehash is at 0.0284

sirslayerjr · · #5563

like ive told myself, ill do anything for a buck

tmopar · · #5564

somethings up... my found blocks and total payout for the day is way behind

FRISKIE · · #5565

somethings up... my found blocks and total payout for the day is way behind
Mine also

tmopar · · #5566

.0284 cents or btc? forgive me i dont mess with NH

sirslayerjr · · #5567

btc

FRISKIE · · #5568

It's a BTC value per GH/s per day I think

sirslayerjr · · #5569

yes