Chat archive · 2017-06

FRISKIE · · #5270

Are you mining Scrypt?

FRISKIE · · #5271

Is this what you mean? example: ETA: ~0d 2h 3m ? If yes, you may have mistaken the tilde for a minus sign?

frphm · · #5272

Prohashing’s cents per Mh/s compared to the duration that it is saying. If I put in 0.0326 BTC/GH/Day, Pay 1 BTC, and limit to 5 GH, it says that order would last 147.24 hours. So, spending $2,900 (1BTC) for 6.135 days of ~8 cents per MH on Prohashing. That’s $2,454. Negative return. I’m doing something wrong, right?

FRISKIE · · #5273

What really counts is to start an order with some amount of BTC, point it over here to Prohashing, and see what comes out the other end. If more comes out than goes in, you made a profit :)

FRISKIE · · #5274

If you are Scrypt mining I can give you the password arguments that I am using to turn in a nice profit.

sirslayerjr · · #5275

0.0326 is to high of a price to rent .. 0.02 is better

frphm · · #5276

Friskie that would be amazing if you don’t mind :)

FRISKIE · · #5277

Today you'll be able to get a price of 0.0319 if you wait for it, this can be profitable with the "right" password arguments to tame Prohashing's coin switching -this avoids too much NH penalties, they hate fast coin switching :)

FRISKIE · · #5278

Pass these arguments in your order: d=8192 h=1000 g=off

frphm · · #5279

Thank you so much!

sirslayerjr · · #5280

im at 0.028 , thats where you doing wrong

FRISKIE · · #5281

And wait for the price to drop to 0.0319 before you place the order

FRISKIE · · #5282

Right, you're placing Standard orders :)

sirslayerjr · · #5283

yes on the fly

FRISKIE · · #5284

But they will turn out to be more headache than they are worth :D Those price setting orders will steal all your miners and drive you nuts!

sirslayerjr · · #5285

if it drops because of demand , it will take a bit longer to finish your order

FRISKIE · · #5286

If you're loading more than minimum amounts of BTC I would recommend you set a Fixed type order, and grab the 0.0319 price, with those PW arguments I gave you it will be profitable. Otherwise you can find that sweet-spot with a Standard order where it picks up enough enough miners, often enough, to be worth it.

sirslayerjr · · #5287

0.0319 is still to high

FRISKIE · · #5288

Scrypt: 23.48¢ :-o wow , hehe not with that kind of profit :D

sirslayerjr · · #5289

but you have your methods and if it works .. then good luck

FRISKIE · · #5290

But yeah, I agree with you and if it weren't for needing to run a couple of orders all day I'd be right in their with you, working with Standard orders

sirslayerjr · · #5291

23.48 for only 40 seconds long

FRISKIE · · #5292

And the luck has indeed been good, the day has turned out a nice profit and I was able to do it "set it and forget it" style :)

sirslayerjr · · #5293

i get your madness friskie.. its about luck

FRISKIE · · #5294

Uhum, when it switches periodically to BCC the profit jumps dramatically

FRISKIE · · #5295

With me I'm looking at the average over an entire day and how much profit comes out the other end vs how much effort and attention I have to devote.

sirslayerjr · · #5296

now rentals are at 0.04

sirslayerjr · · #5297

due yo prohashing/nicehash bots

FRISKIE · · #5298

By the way, you'll see the pattern that during the week the prices for Fixed orders drops lower

sirslayerjr · · #5299

yes like on slow days

FRISKIE · · #5300

Not sure the high prices have anything to do with Prohashing :) . . but definitely NH own Nicehashbot is at use with the price fixing activity

sirslayerjr · · #5301

yes , its the prohashing bots are causing it to go up

FRISKIE · · #5302

yes , its the prohashing bots are causing it to go up
Care to elaborate?

sirslayerjr · · #5303

when rates at 24.38 it went over 0.04 on nicehash its is prohashing bots are causing the issue we just seen it just now

sirslayerjr · · #5304

now scrypt drop to 9 cents the price for rentals will go down

sirslayerjr · · #5305

it went down to 0.028.. just now it did

sirslayerjr · · #5306

scrypt at 9 cent

sirslayerjr · · #5307

i was right

FRISKIE · · #5308

I would guess that to be coincidental :)

sirslayerjr · · #5309

nope, i predicted it

sirslayerjr · · #5310

its the prohashing bots are screwing the nichhash prices

FRISKIE · · #5311

Okidok, I'm off to do other stuff for a while, peace.

sirslayerjr · · #5312

thats no fair

sirslayerjr · · #5313

well dont be blind on what you seen.. goood day

sirslayerjr · · #5314

scrypt over 10 cent

sirslayerjr · · #5315

now

sirslayerjr · · #5316

prices are going up on nicehash again

sirslayerjr · · #5317

hummm what a coincident

sirslayerjr · · #5318

i thought nicehash has a policy on price stepping and prohashing bots are price steeping which cause higher prices

GregoryGHarding · · #5319

FRISKIE wrote: Okidok, I'm off to do other stuff for a while, peace.
lol FRISKIE peacing out as to avoid argument over "prohashing bots"

sirslayerjr · · #5320

well its a serious issue

sirslayerjr · · #5321

and iwas right, we witness a bit of it

sirslayerjr · · #5322

and my last words for the day, bots are causing a unfair advantage which us average users are being taken advantage

FRISKIE · · #5323

and my last words for the day, bots are causing a unfair advantage which us average users are being taken advantage
but not Prohashing bots :D

FRISKIE · · #5324

lol FRISKIE peacing out as to avoid argument over "prohashing bots"
:-D !!

sirslayerjr · · #5325

they are prohashing bots

sirslayerjr · · #5326

and you must be a bot operator

FRISKIE · · #5327

and my last words for the day
;)

sirslayerjr · · #5328

i thought your busy

GregoryGHarding · · #5329

im a prohashing botter

GregoryGHarding · · #5330

no fucks given

FRISKIE · · #5331

im a prohashing botter
I knew it all along :D

GregoryGHarding · · #5332

if you cant beat us.. join us

GregoryGHarding · · #5333

if you strike me down i will become stronger than you could ever imagine

GregoryGHarding · · #5334

sirslayerjr, i am your father

GregoryGHarding · · #5335

we are legion

FRISKIE · · #5336

The force in this one strong it is!

GregoryGHarding · · #5337

</Troll>

FRISKIE · · #5338

ACK

GregoryGHarding · · #5339

i wonder if he knows that not only are there no prohashing bots, but there is nothing TO bot on prohashing

GregoryGHarding · · #5340

unless hes refering to algo's, and trying to do the math with a pen and paper

sirslayerjr · · #5341

then get a job then

GregoryGHarding · · #5342

....whut?

FRISKIE · · #5343

The idea came from a series of coincidentally synchronized price rises on NH that corresponded to Scrypt profit rise

sirslayerjr · · #5344

nope just noticed a few individuals are breaking nicehash price stepping policies

FRISKIE · · #5345

@ sirslayerjr - no need to post combative comments mate - best would be to accept the guidance I gave earlier which described the behavior of the Nicehashbot price setting scheme, and accept that there truly are no Prohashing bots working with NH in this regard - in this way you will come out a bit wiser, and we all remain friends :)

sirslayerjr · · #5346

im just a miner, i dont plan to make friends. ive stated some facts and i get idiots talking about star wars

FRISKIE · · #5347

@ sirslayerjr - and with that last comment I am finished with you mate

sirslayerjr · · #5348

please keep the content about prohashing.com

GregoryGHarding · · #5349

sure. theres nothing to bot on prohashing, therefore there ssre no prohashing bots

GregoryGHarding · · #5350

unless your refering to the forum bots we constatntly ban

GregoryGHarding · · #5351

we are all "just miners" but we are part of the prohashing community. if you choose to not be a part of that community, thats your calling. but you dont get to pick and choose your battles based on "alternative facts"

sirslayerjr · · #5352

why dont you shut up and listen , maybe you might learn a few things..

GregoryGHarding · · #5353

yeah, im gonna take FRISKIE's approach and stop wasting my time

sirslayerjr · · #5354

run to your friend, ill still be here talking about prohashing

GregoryGHarding · · #5355

..always gotta have the last word

VanessaEzekowitz · · #5356

Here’s to hoping my first nicehash order turns out to be profitable.

sirslayerjr · · #5357

i just want to talk about prohashing and their nicehash bots and i get star wars and hate mail

sirslayerjr · · #5358

as long you are renting at 0.028 or lesser.. youll do good

VanessaEzekowitz · · #5359

close, 0.0319 right now

sirslayerjr · · #5360

on nicehash , ive notice a trend where a few individuals can cause prices on nicehash to go way up.. when the scrypt rates on prohashing goes over 10 cents .. prices on nicehash goes up.. i try to start a rental when hash rates on prohashing is at 7 cents

sirslayerjr · · #5361

then i would find rentals below 0.028

sirslayerjr · · #5362

0.0319 i still think is a little high you can drop your price every 600 seconds on nichhash standard

VanessaEzekowitz · · #5363

(my last message didn’t go through? repeat:) I’ll let this order complete, then I’ll look for a lower price. I figure if I net at least what I spent, I’m happy, and I can try again later :-)

sirslayerjr · · #5364

i wish there was a prohashing to nicehash calculator

sirslayerjr · · #5365

yes, try again and master the nicehash bidding and youll do good

VanessaEzekowitz · · #5366

Oh, this is a "Fixed" order, I’d have to cancel it or let it complete if I wanted to adjust the price.

sirslayerjr · · #5367

fixed is at a fixed rate

sirslayerjr · · #5368

when your at standard bidding prices will change alot

VanessaEzekowitz · · #5369

there we go. canceled that one and placed a "standard" order at 0.0278.