Rejected Share Reasons

GregoryGHarding
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Rejected Share Reasons

by GregoryGHarding · · Post #8244

i think we all know what the reasons behind some of the messages we receive in regards to the reasons behind rejected shares, an example being "both primary and merged mins shares are stale" but one that makes no sense to me is rejected shares for the reason "miner is using an incorrect algorithm" obviously this reason isn't accurate or there's an underlying issue with the stratum. can you please shed some light on this reject reason in terms of why we would be getting it, and what you guys plan to do about it. its simply an inaccurate error.. and why is there no share corrections for it?

Thanks Bros
DrIsk
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Re: Rejected Share Reasons

by DrIsk · · Post #8257

I am getting far more "both primary and merged mins shares are stale" errors than incorrect algorithm.

Would love to hear some info on this... I am never at 100% efficiency anymore and it's lost money.
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Steve Sokolowski
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Re: Rejected Share Reasons

by Steve Sokolowski · · Post #8258

DrIsk wrote:I am getting far more "both primary and merged mins shares are stale" errors than incorrect algorithm.

Would love to hear some info on this... I am never at 100% efficiency anymore and it's lost money.
The stale shares are primarily caused because the mining server is overloaded and we don't have the manpower to resolve the issue.

We plan to perform a profit analysis on August 20 and 22 to determine whether additional investment is likely to generate a return or not. For now, you'll have to make a decision whether to use this pool by including the stale rate in your calculations.
joshn712
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Re: Rejected Share Reasons

by joshn712 · · Post #8259

Steve Sokolowski wrote:
DrIsk wrote:I am getting far more "both primary and merged mins shares are stale" errors than incorrect algorithm.

Would love to hear some info on this... I am never at 100% efficiency anymore and it's lost money.
The stale shares are primarily caused because the mining server is overloaded and we don't have the manpower to resolve the issue.

We plan to perform a profit analysis on August 20 and 22 to determine whether additional investment is likely to generate a return or not. For now, you'll have to make a decision whether to use this pool by including the stale rate in your calculations.


I am not sure this answers the first question above?
DrIsk
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Re: Rejected Share Reasons

by DrIsk · · Post #8260

Steve Sokolowski wrote:
DrIsk wrote:I am getting far more "both primary and merged mins shares are stale" errors than incorrect algorithm.

Would love to hear some info on this... I am never at 100% efficiency anymore and it's lost money.
The stale shares are primarily caused because the mining server is overloaded and we don't have the manpower to resolve the issue.

We plan to perform a profit analysis on August 20 and 22 to determine whether additional investment is likely to generate a return or not. For now, you'll have to make a decision whether to use this pool by including the stale rate in your calculations.
This is good to know - thanks Steve. Hope to hear the result of that analysis when you've got it.
GregoryGHarding
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Re: Rejected Share Reasons

by GregoryGHarding · · Post #8263

Steve Sokolowski wrote:
DrIsk wrote:I am getting far more "both primary and merged mins shares are stale" errors than incorrect algorithm.

Would love to hear some info on this... I am never at 100% efficiency anymore and it's lost money.
The stale shares are primarily caused because the mining server is overloaded and we don't have the manpower to resolve the issue.

We plan to perform a profit analysis on August 20 and 22 to determine whether additional investment is likely to generate a return or not. For now, you'll have to make a decision whether to use this pool by including the stale rate in your calculations.
you seem to have missed the topic question
JKDReaper
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Re: Rejected Share Reasons

by JKDReaper · · Post #8268

joshn712 wrote:
Steve Sokolowski wrote:
DrIsk wrote:I am getting far more "both primary and merged mins shares are stale" errors than incorrect algorithm.

Would love to hear some info on this... I am never at 100% efficiency anymore and it's lost money.
The stale shares are primarily caused because the mining server is overloaded and we don't have the manpower to resolve the issue.

We plan to perform a profit analysis on August 20 and 22 to determine whether additional investment is likely to generate a return or not. For now, you'll have to make a decision whether to use this pool by including the stale rate in your calculations.


I am not sure this answers the first question above?
Glad I'm not the only one to notice that. I've yet to ever hear a reason why.
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Steve Sokolowski
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Re: Rejected Share Reasons

by Steve Sokolowski · · Post #8284

JKDReaper wrote:
joshn712 wrote:
Steve Sokolowski wrote:
The stale shares are primarily caused because the mining server is overloaded and we don't have the manpower to resolve the issue.

We plan to perform a profit analysis on August 20 and 22 to determine whether additional investment is likely to generate a return or not. For now, you'll have to make a decision whether to use this pool by including the stale rate in your calculations.


I am not sure this answers the first question above?
Glad I'm not the only one to notice that. I've yet to ever hear a reason why.
The reason there are stale shares is because sometimes performance issues in the mining server result in 100% CPU usage. When that happens, we know that a block is stale but there aren't enough resources available to compute the next coin assignment. Shares are rejected until all the backlogged calculations finish and current work is able to be computed for all miners.