whether they pay you in cheeseburgers, or porches, or litecoins.
Chat archive · 2018-06
CSZiggy · · #87829
Hobo01 · · #87830
Borrow for Peter to pay Paul.
Foxx · · #87831
right Ziggy barter is taxable
Hobo01 · · #87832
Cheeseburgers can’t be tax
Hobo01 · · #87833
Porche can’t be tax
Hobo01 · · #87834
Litecoins can’t be tax
Hobo01 · · #87835
USD can be tax
Hobo01 · · #87836
Not the same.
CSZiggy · · #87837
if you cut my grass, and I pay you in 100$ of cheeseburgers, you owe taxes on $100
Hobo01 · · #87838
Nope.
Hobo01 · · #87839
Tax laws apply to currency.
Foxx · · #87840
wrong again hobo
Hobo01 · · #87841
If you tax my cheeseburgers I will throw up cheeseburger
Hobo01 · · #87842
and give you some.
CSZiggy · · #87843
Hope that's true and you don't go to jail Hobo, but I'd read some more tax codes if I were you. Or you may be in for a huge surprise at tax time next year.
Hobo01 · · #87844
You all are blind. The trick of government is to get you to consent.
Hobo01 · · #87845
There is no due process, no evaluation. Everything is esoteric.
CSZiggy · · #87846
good chat.
Hobo01 · · #87847
Go to the source. I am 100% accurate.
Hobo01 · · #87848
Unit of measure is not the same.
Hobo01 · · #87849
Fraud, and theives.
Foxx · · #87850
tax avoidance is 100% legal. tax evasion is 100% criminal and prosecutable.
minerproo · · #87851
Why dont you make your own pool and mine yourself? i will gift you my coding time and setup free of cost 
minerproo · · #87852
Hobopool
minerproo · · #87853
stop worryng and start living
minerproo · · #87854
lig
minerproo · · #87855
life is too short to stress that much and calling people thives
minerproo · · #87856
they spent hundreds of hours rk
Hobo01 · · #87857
Yes. And your claiming Tax on what Foxx?
Hobo01 · · #87858
There is no regularitory commission.
minerproo · · #87859
to make this site and you are calling them thieves
Hobo01 · · #87860
It’s esoteric.
Hobo01 · · #87861
Only valued to the people using it.
Hobo01 · · #87862
There is no government backing.
minerproo · · #87863
you are
Hobo01 · · #87864
There is no gold.
minerproo · · #87865
drunk?
Hobo01 · · #87866
There is no silver.
Hobo01 · · #87867
There is no nothing.
Hobo01 · · #87868
It’s an equation.
Hobo01 · · #87869
I concept, trade. Like native american indians.
Hobo01 · · #87870
If you want TAX.
Hobo01 · · #87871
Pay US Dollars.
Hobo01 · · #87872
Otherwise fuck off!
CSZiggy · · #87873
some people used form 8949 with their 1040s
CSZiggy · · #87874
I just went to bitcoin.tax and supplied all my wallet APIs and it figured out all my taxes for me.
Hobo01 · · #87875
Hobo01 · · #87876
Then fine. I’ll take their business.
CSZiggy · · #87877
rev. December 2012
CSZiggy · · #87878
thats a BIT out of date.
CSZiggy · · #87879
go find one from 2017 that has bitcoin related addressed statements in it
Hobo01 · · #87880
oup of assets makes up a trade or business if goodwill or going concern value could under any circumstances attach to such assets. A group of assets can also qualify as a trade or business if it qualifies as an active trade or business under section 355 (relating to distributions of stock in controlled corporations). Factors to consider in determining whether goodwill or going concern value could attach include: The presence of any section 197 or other intangible assets (provided that the transfer of such an asset in the absence of other assets will not be a trade or business); Any excess of the total paid for the assets over the aggregate book value of the assets (other than goodwill or going concern value) as shown in the purchaser’s financial accounting books and records; or A license, a lease agreement, a covenant not to compete, a management contract, an employment contract, or other similar agreements between purchaser and seller (or managers, directors, owners, or employees of the seller)
Hobo01 · · #87881
I really don’t think this is what they want.
Hobo01 · · #87882
But you are right, it gives you % control of their business and earnings.
Hobo01 · · #87883
I was trying to keep it simple.
CSZiggy · · #87884
?
Hobo01 · · #87885
Last line.
CSZiggy · · #87886
still not sure what your on about
Hobo01 · · #87887
or A license, a lease agreement, a covenant not to compete, a management contract, an employment contract, or other similar agreements between purchaser and seller (or managers, directors, owners, or employees of the seller)
CSZiggy · · #87888
those are assests not payments or income
Hobo01 · · #87889
OR
Hobo01 · · #87890
This allows for ownership to be implied in my expenses. Since they say I am a "Contractor". Their expense is my expense.
Hobo01 · · #87891
I want full disclosure of their finacial records so I can accurately report.
Hobo01 · · #87892
get it. Not very wise.
Hobo01 · · #87893
Keep it simple...
Hobo01 · · #87894
"Service"
CSZiggy · · #87895
nope still not following
CSZiggy · · #87896
think of it as a union
CSZiggy · · #87897
you work and you pay a fee to do work there.
Hobo01 · · #87898
Business A is saying Business B is a joint-venture via Contracting.
CSZiggy · · #87899
if you didnt pay the fee, the union wouldnt let you work there for $
Hobo01 · · #87900
Business A is saying that 4.99% fee is made.
Hobo01 · · #87901
Union implies some value.
Hobo01 · · #87902
Mainly lawyers.
CSZiggy · · #87903
so does crypto
Hobo01 · · #87904
So therefore the total cost of both businesses A and B must be split. proportionately.
Hobo01 · · #87905
For their contribution.
CSZiggy · · #87906
if you were a part of their company, you are just an employee, hence the contractor.
Hobo01 · · #87907
IRS will definitely agree with that.
Hobo01 · · #87908
So as a contractor I’m not part of the company?
Hobo01 · · #87909
But, aren’t they saying I am part of their company? Because they paid me something. At least for a time?
Hobo01 · · #87910
Easier to call this a service. Otherwise. More issues.
Hobo01 · · #87911
Best to say.
Hobo01 · · #87912
I hired a company to come paint my walls, they provided a service.
CSZiggy · · #87913
so what would be the difference between service?
Hobo01 · · #87914
Then to say I hired a company to help build my business and I paid them.
CSZiggy · · #87915
and what they are claiming to be now?
Hobo01 · · #87916
Because in one case, they are a service expense
Hobo01 · · #87917
In the other case, they are a business expense. (Which is where the fraud is).
CSZiggy · · #87918
the company you hired to build your business has to claim that money as taxable income right?
Hobo01 · · #87919
Business has service expense.
Hobo01 · · #87920
BUT it’s not on a singular basis. Simple a reciept.
Hobo01 · · #87921
you go to 7-11 they charge you $4.54 for some stuff. Which includes sales tax.
CSZiggy · · #87922
claim the 4.99% as a business expense
Hobo01 · · #87923
What they are saying is.
CSZiggy · · #87924
if its a fee you have to pay to do business it should be a writeoff
Hobo01 · · #87925
You go to 7-11 temporarily become an employee, and they pay you for being there but deduct from your paycheck what you walked out with.
CSZiggy · · #87926
same with fees you get charged turning coins into fiat
Hobo01 · · #87927
No, read what I said about 7-11
Hobo01 · · #87928
It’s a fraud.