Chat archive · 2017-12
VanessaE · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:15 PM UTC · #64096
@greaseman316 : just a bunch of old griseed ASICs. not especially profitable, but it’s all I have.
VanessaE · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:15 PM UTC · #64097
@AppleMiner : </strong> I know, that’s my point. 32k+ is unreasonably high for low-end devices.
greaseman316 · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:22 PM UTC · #64098
VanessaE id say good luck finding a pool wih low difficulty. there are some older pools out there that still help older stuff with less hash power but this one is mostly high power asics
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:23 PM UTC · #64100
same reason why a smartphone from 3 years ago that cant upgrade to lollipop is no longer usable for apps on the app store
greaseman316 · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:23 PM UTC · #64101
if you want to try your hand at a single coin and just mine what you can try 803 pool they still have lower difficulty for you
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:23 PM UTC · #64102
why the garmin from 4 years ago with lifetime maps cant get the new ones from too small memory on previous models
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:24 PM UTC · #64104
people come here with laptops and gpu and want to mine and make money. this is an upwardly mobile game, if you arent upgrading eventaully you will be left behind. Thats not an issue, just the way it is.
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:25 PM UTC · #64105
a Pentium laptop was a breakthrough when it came out. But anyone running one now, knows why its slow, its still a pentium and not a newer i5 or i7
VanessaE · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:28 PM UTC · #64106
guys, I am not talking about network diff. the only reason the minimum diff here is so high is from the Brothers trying to control the rate at which shares are submitted (higher diff == fewer per minute). that’s fine for high-end ASICs that can submit dozens of shares per second at a diff of 512 for example, not for low-end devices that can only manage a couple per second
greaseman316 · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:29 PM UTC · #64107
thats kinda the point. they got to keep the pool profitable for the other 19k workers connected
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:30 PM UTC · #64108
i thought the reason for raising the min diff was to make it less accessible to those with slower machines so it wouldnt flood the pool with 1 million slower machines and tie up resources
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:31 PM UTC · #64109
but also thought that was only while there was a worker cap in place or to help with a bandwidth issue
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:31 PM UTC · #64110
not a CPU bottleneck which is what seems to be all the issues now
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:32 PM UTC · #64111
so once they got more bandwitch and removed the worker cap
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:32 PM UTC · #64112
technically that min diff should have been lowered to allow 1000 new miners to join with older miners and mine.
greaseman316 · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:33 PM UTC · #64113
Low difficulty means tons more submitted shares which even new servers can not keep up with
blakeman12 · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:35 PM UTC · #64114
I never set my difficutly to anythimg, should i with the antminer l3+?
greaseman316 · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:36 PM UTC · #64115
not unless you want to. minimums were raised to help with that
VanessaE · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:37 PM UTC · #64116
@greaseman316 : then the server is shit. explain to me, then, why I can point my miners at litecoinpool, which is with a diff of just 64 and it works perfectly (aside from litecoins not being profitable to mine), even though they’re serving 6 times the hash rate as prohashing
VanessaE · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:38 PM UTC · #64119
nominally about 19.6 MH/s (scrypt) but usually reads as just over 18 MH/s on the site.
greaseman316 · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:43 PM UTC · #64122
litecoin pool is a ton larger and they try to suck up every last share they can even the small stuff. when nice hash took a crap everybody went running an alot came here
greaseman316 · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:44 PM UTC · #64123
as new accounts were added the amount of miners went from just over 5k to 19k in a few days which even with new servers about killed the rest of us that had already been mining here with connectivity issues
blakeman12 · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:45 PM UTC · #64124
i dont think you will make more at litecoinpool
greaseman316 · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:46 PM UTC · #64125
well there you have a better chance of getting a few shares with lower hash power
blakeman12 · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:48 PM UTC · #64127
hmm wow, maybe i should try for a longer period of time then...thanks!
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:49 PM UTC · #64128
if you had more than 1 miner id advise you to run a day or 2 of tests, then swap the miners settings and check them again.
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:49 PM UTC · #64129
when i ran my tests last week and ever day since ive checked vs the test rig I keep here to monitor payouts daily
blakeman12 · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:49 PM UTC · #64130
ok, i do only have one miner
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:50 PM UTC · #64131
the % of coins I get from litecoinpool vs the percent of coins I earn here for a day...I get more there.
blakeman12 · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:50 PM UTC · #64132
do u have any special config for the litecoin pool password?
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:51 PM UTC · #64133
i dont think they have special passwords, its the password you have setup for your miner there
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:51 PM UTC · #64134
I think all my rigs have x as a password
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:51 PM UTC · #64136
but again, your values may differ make your own tests and draw your own conclusions
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:53 PM UTC · #64137
so far ive been 10-15% higher at litecoin pool for the past 2 weeks now
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:53 PM UTC · #64138
yesterday may have been a special day from the verge payout that bumped it for the day
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:53 PM UTC · #64140
but doubting we see that payout...evar again
mycide · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:55 PM UTC · #64141
appleminer static ltc mining more profitable then this pool, again how is that even possible?
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:55 PM UTC · #64143
its the average of what was paid out
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:56 PM UTC · #64144
if you pick a diff coin than I pick
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:56 PM UTC · #64145
your payoutr could be 2X what the expected 1MH price says it was yesterday
JiveTonto · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:56 PM UTC · #64146
@blakeman12 : come static mine some donationcoin my bra
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:56 PM UTC · #64147
and mine, using the same mining rig couldbe half what your payout was
JiveTonto · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:56 PM UTC · #64148
Be a good little earner soon
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:56 PM UTC · #64149
becuase 2 + 4 = 6 and 6/2 = 3
mycide · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:56 PM UTC · #64150
this pool should not be possible to make less then litecoinpool.org, should be impossible.
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:57 PM UTC · #64151
so the average is 3....me getting 2 is under that, and you earning 4 is over it
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:58 PM UTC · #64156
its the same reason in problems and stats class the baby drowns in the river that averagees .1 inches.
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:58 PM UTC · #64157
yeah averages suck...but if it fell into the part of the river that was 5 feet, its gone.
mycide · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:59 PM UTC · #64158
litecoinpool calculator shows 1/3 more LTC payed out daily.
mycide · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:59 PM UTC · #64159
that would be huge difference.
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 03:59 PM UTC · #64160
im getting closer to 15% not quite 33%
mycide · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:01 PM UTC · #64161
didnt do exact calculations but here 0.28 per day litecoinpool shows 0.38 hmm minus my titan rig that is always on litecoinpool, so i guess closer to 20% difference then 30.
mycide · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:02 PM UTC · #64162
and i dont know how many times i will say this but how is that even possible? it should nt be possible for that static pool to pay better then PH.
blakeman12 · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:02 PM UTC · #64163
are you you saying that because litecoinpool only mines LTC?
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:04 PM UTC · #64165
if you plot value on percent of coins, and value on percent of $ profits
mycide · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:04 PM UTC · #64166
then PH system is flawed, if its meant to pay the best rate u can get and consistently pay less for weeks. that is a flaw or something is wrong in the system.
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:04 PM UTC · #64167
the lines cross, at a point on the graph it makes more sense to mine on 1 pool vs the other. Its just math vs profits.
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:05 PM UTC · #64168
when the $ profits are higher, I mine here on PH.
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:05 PM UTC · #64169
when the percent of coins values are higher, then I mine on Litecoinpool
greaseman316 · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:05 PM UTC · #64170
geez segwitx2 guys pushing the crap out of it today. ive gotten 20 emails about it from them already
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:05 PM UTC · #64171
1 is a $ payout, the other is a % of coin payout
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:06 PM UTC · #64172
they are paying out on 2 different metrics, and depending on the value 1 is higher than the other on a given day
mycide · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:06 PM UTC · #64173
appleminer if this is how its done, it seems pointless being here at all, ur mining becuyase you believe in the future, not because you think the price today s the best. why would you want to mine less coins at any time? accumulation is key.
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:06 PM UTC · #64174
it goes back to asking. which do you want? 1 coin or $1000 dollars?
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:06 PM UTC · #64175
sorta depends how much the coin is valued at on which you want right?
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:07 PM UTC · #64176
same reason I just stated @mycide :
mycide · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:07 PM UTC · #64177
... why would you go mine a shitcoin that skyrocketed, you would get jack shit, and then coin plummits.
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:07 PM UTC · #64178
you can mine here today and make $100
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:07 PM UTC · #64179
or you can mine at litecoinpool and make 1 coin today.
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:08 PM UTC · #64180
when LTC is less than 100, then you make more money here making that $100 and turning it into 1.02 coins
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:08 PM UTC · #64181
when LTC is MORE than 100, you get more minign there, cause as a percent 1 coin > $100
mycide · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:08 PM UTC · #64182
i mined here for over half a year, but lately it has consistantly showed less profit then litecoinpool, long before your name was in this chat. i followed profits everyday, this is different now.
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:10 PM UTC · #64183
i was fine back in july, aug, then the first ddos attack and i had issues getting miners back off and on for a while
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:10 PM UTC · #64184
then the data center move and all that hassle back in september
mycide · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:10 PM UTC · #64185
only reason to go usd high on individual day is if u plan on selling and cashing out same day. otherwise you want accumulation sitting around gaining 20-30% less coins per day is seriously bad in a year or two.
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:11 PM UTC · #64188
on some days the $ profit here makes you a higher percent of coins than you get on Litecoinpool
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:11 PM UTC · #64189
litecoinpool makes me 1.8 coins daily right now
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:12 PM UTC · #64190
I can really easiy take that 1.8 and find out how much that is per day in $
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:12 PM UTC · #64191
if I can get that $ or MORE here then I should be mining HERE
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:12 PM UTC · #64192
if not then I should stay there and make my 1.8 coins a day.
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:12 PM UTC · #64193
if the $ equates into a higher precent of coins earned...OVER 1.8
AppleMiner · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:13 PM UTC · #64194
then i get a higher precent of coins based on the higher $ usd profit earned
mycide · Wed Dec 27, 2017 04:14 PM UTC · #64195
your not making any sense. if ltc goes up in price i make less ltc but the same usd value, and im telling you that is stupid as hell, you dont want daily usd accumulation you want COIN.