Chat archive · 2017-09

fire3916 · · #22076

hashingpro wrote: so yeah I see people not only selling them but buying them at that price, figuring they can get ROI in 2 months, no clue how many are coming online in the next month to validate that hope.
I see that too. I think people don’t see that they will not get a decent ROI

fire3916 · · #22077

hashingpro wrote: is it IN HARD or preorder?
In hard as of Sept 30th

hashingpro · · #22078

if D3 is in hand, you might still make ROI in 2.5-3 months thats not bad

fire3916 · · #22079

In hand

hashingpro · · #22080

a month away may as well be forever.

fire3916 · · #22081

That’s true but it’s not worth it considering I have found the D3 on other outlets for 2.5k

hashingpro · · #22082

in hand or when do they ship?

hashingpro · · #22083

the D3s reduced in price each batch they sold

fire3916 · · #22084

It felt like forever when I ordered my L3+ but I’m almost at ROI currently and majority of my mining has been at PH with little effiency issues or stale shares since starting

hashingpro · · #22085

they know as soon as those batchs go one, all the card x-11 people are going to drop off

hashingpro · · #22086

and then the diff will shoot up to the stratosphere

fire3916 · · #22087

yup. But with new coins coming out for both scrypt and x11 who knows what the future holds for either of these

hashingpro · · #22088

im still at only 3rd capacity, 2 more weeks should get another third in

fire3916 · · #22089

The question though remains what will happen to profits when all the D3’s go live. I see a drop in profits all the way around regardless of new coins

hashingpro · · #22090

dash is going to be cut in half if not lots more.

fire3916 · · #22091

and it’s good luck on getting your hands on an L3+ or D3 at bitmain cause as soon as they put them up for sale, the website crashes. Bitmain announced a new batch of L3+’s going on sale at 8PM PDT so I see a website crash at 8:01PM PDT

fire3916 · · #22092

today

fire3916 · · #22093

Bitmain should discontinue the L3+ and work on a higher power miner for scrypt to account for the soon to be rapid increase in diff

hashingpro · · #22094

did you already convert the time?

hashingpro · · #22095

bitmains releases are 12 hours ahead of us, 8PM their time is 8AM our time.

hashingpro · · #22096

8 am their time is 8pm the night before for us.

mikey · · #22097

I’m one of the idiots that bought 2 L3+ off amazon for 5k each. Then again they came with 3 year warranties through Assurant, so I’m not really sure how I can lose. Considering I can sell them for more than I bought them. I’m also the idiot that bought an D3 off ebay for 4k and thought it said 1st batch, but it said Nov. 1st batch. DOH!, finally learned my lesson and bought second D3 from Bitmain a couple batches ago.

fire3916 · · #22098

Yes I converted time

hashingpro · · #22099

id just cancel the nov 1st one for 4K

fire3916 · · #22100

mikey wrote: I’m one of the idiots that bought 2 L3+ off amazon for 5k each. Then again they came with 3 year warranties through Assurant, so I’m not really sure how I can lose. Considering I can sell them for more than I bought them. I’m also the idiot that bought an D3 off ebay for 4k and thought it said 1st batch, but it said Nov. 1st batch. DOH!, finally learned my lesson and bought second D3 from Bitmain a couple batches ago.
I just hope you’re able to make a decent ROI on those once you receive them

hashingpro · · #22101

what did you pay on the 2nd D3? 1400?

mikey · · #22102

Whatever 0.34284816 BTC on 8-17 equalled.

hashingpro · · #22103

Come december I wont be surprised to see L3+ miners up for sale on ebay pretty cheap, question is will you trust any of them not to be so overclocked for 2 months they have all the boards working and no burnouts.

mikey · · #22104

Yeah, I’m thinking of sticking them in mineral oil and overclocking them.

hashingpro · · #22105

long as you never plan to resell them.

fire3916 · · #22106

I don’t trust e-bay as far as I can throw it

hashingpro · · #22107

they need to change some policies over there. Id like to see all accounts be buyer only. And if you want to sell, you pony up $50 to ebay to turn that service on. The seller fees come out of that $50, but if you screw over a customer, they get the rest of that $50.

mikey · · #22108

I sold some Radeon graphics card on ebay, I don’t think I’ll sell anything like that again, what a pain in the ass

mikey · · #22109

Is there a way to see the historic price and not just instantaneous?

hashingpro · · #22110

when i took down my X-11 rig after the year I ran it, I sold all 18 750ti video cards, the mobos chips and memory all on ebay.

mikey · · #22111

Oh man, why didn’t you just convert it over to mining monero?

hashingpro · · #22112

oh and the external PCI-E powered card risers, those were a lot.

hashingpro · · #22113

was Monero around in 2013?

mikey · · #22114

Gotcha

hashingpro · · #22115

I ran that setup from 13-14...and at the time the price of coins was soo low I wasnt touching profit

hashingpro · · #22116

think i wasin the red $1000, so I scrapped the setup sold off the parts to recoup some money

hashingpro · · #22117

from buying to selling lost another 1500, was down 2500 for the year of mining on the X-11 rig.

hashingpro · · #22118

depreciation of the rigs,/video cards, new ones came out in that years time, etc

mikey · · #22119

Yeah I could see myself in the same boat here soon :P

hashingpro · · #22120

THEN, may of this year, prices went up, and I was like...soo all those coins i mined 2 years ago..where did I put those.....

hashingpro · · #22121

And after searching I had up over 250 dash, and they were going for 88 bucks each...so i dumped them. Went from -2500 to +20K

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mikey · · #22123

Oh man hash, glad that works out, pretty much my plan. Mine through the down turns.

stugots2 · · #22124

Question about overclocking, lets say you kept these things cold (L3+ and D3) i mean cold cold (freezer status) would you see any OTHER risks in overclocking?

hashingpro · · #22125

its not the temp its the extra voltage going through the rigs.

hashingpro · · #22126

even if you mineral oil bathed them and chilled the oil, putting extra current through components will lessen the lifetime of those componets.

hashingpro · · #22127

A candel that burns at both ends, burns twice as bright and for half as long.

hashingpro · · #22128

so the question is, are you planning to just mine 3 months then toss it all away, overclock it up. if you want to mine 8 months from now and resell to get the next rig...maybe not.

hashingpro · · #22129

plus you void that 6 month warrenty.

mikey · · #22130

From what I’ve read on the internet :roll: it’s safe to overclock oup to 425 as long as you keep the connectors cool, they seem to like to melt :shock: that’s why I’m thinking oil

hashingpro · · #22131

I will say...I've already thought about snagging 1 or 2 L3+ off my rack and keeping them at my place to help with the heating costs in the winter.

hashingpro · · #22132

the issue is the wires inside are only rated to carry X amount of current. When you start adding more power you go over that rating and the wires start to burn up, so now less wires carry that load. etc etc etc over time the wire burns out. Hope that doesnt short or burn or spike anything.

fire3916 · · #22133

hashingpro wrote: I will say...I’ve already thought about snagging 1 or 2 L3+ off my rack and keeping them at my place to help with the heating costs in the winter.
When you electric costs are low, then whats about what their value is outside of mining. Otherwise, I view them as a worthless paperweight when they’re at the shelf life

hashingpro · · #22134

unlike the crappy KNC titan design, at least antminer added 2 pci-e connectors to distrute the current over more wires. That makes it a TON safer starting off.

hashingpro · · #22135

i pay for electric heat to heat my place....just as well may pay for a miner to mine and keep the free heat byproduct. Im paying to run it at either place, just shift the electric charges from 1 to another...pay a bit more for my residential..but FREE HEAT!

fire3916 · · #22136

heck yes

stugots2 · · #22137

since everyone has SOOO much knowledge here (love picking your brains honestly) Let me ask, is there a pool that mines multi cpu coins only? or like new coins with no GPU/ASIC’s yet?

vladimirvlad · · #22138

How much per day LTC on L3 +?

fire3916 · · #22139

vladimirvlad wrote: How much per day LTC on L3 +?
Approx $30-$40

fire3916 · · #22140

stugots2 wrote: since everyone has SOOO much knowledge here (love picking your brains honestly) Let me ask, is there a pool that mines multi cpu coins only? or like new coins with no GPU/ASIC’s yet?
Nicehash and zpool are a few I know that mine multi cpu coins

stugots2 · · #22141

cpu only coins

stugots2 · · #22142

or cpu mining that has GPU’s mining as well?

coastalminer · · #22143

@mikey I was able to overclock my L3+ to 450Mhz for last 23 days without issue, but you have to keep close eye during hot days, you dont want to push your chip temp to over 75C.. I have software that automatic set miners to 400Mhz during peak of hottest day.

fire3916 · · #22144

coastalminer wrote: @mikey I was able to overclock my L3+ to 450Mhz for last 23 days without issue, but you have to keep close eye during hot days, you dont want to push your chip temp to over 75C.. I have software that automatic set miners to 400Mhz during peak of hottest day.
what was your hashrate?

UPSoft · · #22145

~600mh

mikey · · #22146

Upsoft, thanks for the info

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coastalminer · · #22148

@fire3916, at 450Mhz, I was getting approx 590 Mh/s

ArjunaX · · #22149

Efficiency has been in the 70’s tonight.. :/

hashingpro · · #22150

ive been at 97 all day today

fire3916 · · #22151

same

peepeepool · · #22152

$2280 for the latest L3 batch LOFL. I was thinking more like $800 and I was going to add.

hashingpro · · #22153

they arent going after the smart miners anymore, now they are targeting the wallstreet cats that just found out about all this last week and now want to get in on it.

Icoinminer · · #22154

Hello. Can anyone tell me the best mining script for max profit?

peepeepool · · #22155

I honestly thought they were going to be $1k or maybe $1200 and I still wasn’t going to bite. Only $250 LTC will save them at this point lol.

hashingpro · · #22156

icoin what miner are you using?

miles888 · · #22157

Have payouts been stuck for you guys the past 2 or 3 days? Mine is well over the payout limit

Icoinminer · · #22158

l3+

Icoinminer · · #22159

antminer l3+

hashingpro · · #22160

n=miner1

hashingpro · · #22161

n=miner2

hashingpro · · #22162

n=miner3

miles888 · · #22163

and so on...

Icoinminer · · #22164

thank you very much :)

miles888 · · #22165

I also have the difficulty at d=32768, but idk if that is 100% optimal

hashingpro · · #22166

it should auto find it

miles888 · · #22167

Otherwise mine maxes out at the 262k

Icoinminer · · #22168

i am a bit new. for pool 1 2 and 3 do can i use the same pool, or do they have to be all different?

hashingpro · · #22169

those are failovers

miles888 · · #22170

Failovers are recommended

hashingpro · · #22171

when PH goes down it will go to those sites to mine

miles888 · · #22172

Otherwise you could have them sit idle if pool 1 goes down

hashingpro · · #22173

Id make 1 of the litecoinpool since thats almost never down

Icoinminer · · #22174

alright thanks guys really appreciate it

hashingpro · · #22175

o7 good luck out there