kleissen86 wrote: bro bitmain has to be manipulating the marketLOL, Bitmain are the manufacturers so they set the price they think the miner is worth or miners will pay. As LTC has gone up, so has the price.
Chat archive · 2017-09
vinylwasp · · #32216
has started a new topic: Not paid and not possible to login anymore
dardan · · #32218
what are the earnings for l3s today ?
dog1965 · · #32219
@vinylwasp : thank you could not have said it better myself.
mycide · · #32220
you really believe that bitmain is only manufacturing, that is a bit naive, they are a leading force behind prices aswell as running the rigs we buy before shipping them, deflating price slowly as the batches are released, making sure the machine already payed itself several times over by the time we get to pay for it. Atleast we get a function al machine, right ^^
mycide · · #32221
same shit when Titans were on the table 2014.
mycide · · #32222
look at X11 it plummited to the ground, scrypt is holding its own a lot better atm, and prob why in the longer term the L3 will be more profitable. Or price for Dash needs to drastically move.
Maxiimos · · #32223
looks like zpool’s profitability has increased substantially as of yesterday evening
mycide · · #32224
profit should be up today if price of LTC holds up
has started a new topic: Live coin status chart
kleissen86 · · #32226
if d3s are so good why are they still a lot left on the bitmain’s site and the s9 and l3s didnt last
kleissen86 · · #32227
is there anything going on?
Splinter · · #32228
vinylwasp wrote:Exactly!kleissen86 wrote: bro bitmain has to be manipulating the marketLOL, Bitmain are the manufacturers so they set the price they think the miner is worth or miners will pay. As LTC has gone up, so has the price.
kleissen86 · · #32229
sorry just got here catching up but i just noticed that
Splinter · · #32230
mycide wrote: same shit when Titans were on the table 2014.People think the problem is Bitmain ... If you do not want to buy their machines, it’s okay! Nobody is forcing you to buy AntMiners. I do not love or hate Bitmain, I just see these thing as they are. And the fact is that Bitmain is at the forefront of this technology... they are not to blame if no other company in the world can compete with them equally.
bellaminer · · #32231
@kleissen86 the availability of D3s on bitmain is based, at least in part, on the price point being low relative to the L3s and the number of idiots who put 50 of them into a cart and never wire transfer
bellaminer · · #32232
By my calculations, even if X11 drops to .05/mhs, they’re still relatively profitable
kleissen86 · · #32233
Oh i am not picking a side fyi or blaming. I am on a learning process so i am calling out what i see to see if others think a like o get feedback. I see bitmain as a opportunity for others honestly. even
kleissen86 · · #32234
even if they do all the stuff ppl say they do. They still allow others to profit and share. even with a lot of ppl that have nothing
Splinter · · #32235
sure
bellaminer · · #32236
This whole game depends on coin prices continuing to increase.
bellaminer · · #32237
Anyone who thinks they are going to make 6k a month off a single D3 is delusional, expect to have 15 dollars of profit per day
kleissen86 · · #32238
i see this as an opportunity for all of us to become wealthy on a wolrd design for big whales to capitalize on every opportunity and leaving the rest of the world with no chance
bellaminer · · #32239
Which in the grand scheme is damn good profit
bellaminer · · #32240
Everyone here has seen the writing on the wall and will profit
kleissen86 · · #32241
ok so i have 3 d3 on my car right now should i pay for them or get 2 more l3s
bellaminer · · #32242
How many D3s do you have already?
bellaminer · · #32243
I think it would be bad to half all D3s, or all L3s
kleissen86 · · #32244
i want to be part of each side a little bit. so i want to mine, resell if possible and invest on the coin as well
bellaminer · · #32245
have all, rather
bellaminer · · #32246
The best you’re going to get on Dec 1, in my humble opinion, is about $2.5k for a D3
kleissen86 · · #32247
so i have 4 l3 currently i have 4 more coming and 3 d3? would be good
bellaminer · · #32248
8 L3s is where I would love to be, but we only have 4
bellaminer · · #32249
We’re shooting for 4 L3s and 11 D3s
bellaminer · · #32250
not shooting, waiting for.
kleissen86 · · #32251
i see the l3 as gold to be honest
bellaminer · · #32252
But I’d rather have 8 L3s
bellaminer · · #32253
I think 8 L3s and 4 D3s is a safe way to go
kleissen86 · · #32254
i see value on the efficiency and the chance to exchange for btc or any scrypt that is worth
bellaminer · · #32255
I’m running a huge risk with 11 of htem
bellaminer · · #32256
them*
bellaminer · · #32257
I may sell a few off to add 2 more L3s
Splinter · · #32258
Just a note: People are free to have their own opinions... I just can not tolerate xenophobic comments of any kind even more in the crypto world.
bellaminer · · #32259
Someone was spouting racist crap on here?
kleissen86 · · #32260
ok u guys just lost me lol
bellaminer · · #32261
Every day that goes by, I am regretting getting so top-heavy with D3s
bellaminer · · #32262
Wish I had the sense to buy more L3s
kleissen86 · · #32263
wow by u saying that right now gives me more confidence about choosing those
bellaminer · · #32264
Its built on the assumption that the scrypt coins can maintain $15-18/day for the next 12+ months
bellaminer · · #32265
which may be misplaced
bellaminer · · #32266
If bitconnectioncoin (or whatever its called) dies, like Steve suggested herein on the forum, we may be facing $8/day profit come Jan 1
kleissen86 · · #32267
i think the more they sell the lower it gets but it would be up to the person to play on the whole dynamic of the game to come out on top
bellaminer · · #32268
I don’t think you made a mistake at 8 L3s
kleissen86 · · #32269
yeah so, things like saving on fees, saving on electric bills, exchanging to btc etc plays a huge role
bellaminer · · #32270
exactly
kleissen86 · · #32271
at the end of the day the one thing that can’t go away are the miners
kleissen86 · · #32272
but honestly we as the ppl doing the work should be able to have some pool the problem is all the big guys catching up.
bellaminer · · #32273
We’re within 24 months of some big players hitting the mining market
bellaminer · · #32274
The japanese smell money and are going after the 7nm chips
kleissen86 · · #32275
yeah i really dont want to let this go so i am trying to grow as much as i can honestly it is a better chance than just keep working at my job to make someone else rich
kleissen86 · · #32276
i just saw some mining operations that said to be be building more around the world and made me feel like an insect lol
bellaminer · · #32277
Lets just hope we get our $$$ before its impossible to mine without a massive server farm
solar-song · · #32278
is there a list of coins that are being mined here? I’m sure there probably is but I’ve dug around and can’t see to find one...
solar-song · · #32279
bella, diversify your portfolio, balance your sell and hold, and if you get a good foundation it won’t matter so much when the mega farms come online. you’re in at a good time
stugots2 · · #32280
anyone know what the HW’s are on L3+’s? each blade has its own HW # what is that?
solar-song · · #32281
HW errors
stugots2 · · #32282
so each blade 1-4 under HW is an error?
stugots2 · · #32283
like blade 1 has 7, blade 2 has 1 etc
solar-song · · #32284
I’m not looking at my miner screen right now. each blade has a bunch of chips that periodically might choke on their input, generating a hardware error
solar-song · · #32285
the number you’re seeing is how many have appeared since uptime. they aren’t necessarily a bad thing
stugots2 · · #32286
so HW section is hardware error? some (overclocked ones) have MANY MANY
solar-song · · #32287
people use them to gauge how they should clock their machines, if they’re feeling they want to push it. it’s a good gauge to test your overclocking
stugots2 · · #32288
2300 is way too much huh?
solar-song · · #32289
maybe back down the overclock a frequency at a time and see if you can find a sweetspot between returns and HW errors. 2300 may not be that many depending on your uptime. and that’s tiny given how many thousands of calcs per second you’re running through
stugots2 · · #32290
3.5 days on that one?
stugots2 · · #32291
other 3 blades are 0,211,41 tho
solar-song · · #32292
I think you’re fine, you’re not seeing any x’s in the chip array depiction, are you? you should be seeing all "o"s
stugots2 · · #32293
no no x’s at all
stugots2 · · #32294
all O’s
solar-song · · #32295
O k then.
solar-song · · #32296
(that was bad)
stugots2 · · #32297
different L3 tho, I have one hashing board just stop showing all together, I reboot (because im not there) when i reboot it through the system sometimes ANOTHER board leaves but the 4th never comes back
stugots2 · · #32298
ever seenthat?
solar-song · · #32299
hmm. might have something going on in your controller or something? I’m fairly new to these machines, so no I’ve not encountered it. fish around, I’m sure someone has some advice on that
stugots2 · · #32300
i thought bad board but when # 3 keeps leaving and coming back im thinking something else
stugots2 · · #32301
maybe a manual "pull the plug" so the controller resets fully is in order
solar-song · · #32302
that’s always a good first step
solar-song · · #32303
I’ve been bouncing around to some other pools, how are earnings here lately?
hashingpro · · #32304
Bel you on?
stugots2 · · #32305
been bouncing also lol
stugots2 · · #32306
Nicehash is the winner right now, waiting for this place tho
hashingpro · · #32307
nicehash was about even with PH, until you subtract the 3% fee to get your money out, then they are 2 bucks behind
solar-song · · #32308
so running around $20 an L3 or so?
hashingpro · · #32309
yeah 19 here yesterday
hashingpro · · #32310
23 at another place
solar-song · · #32311
word
hashingpro · · #32312
19/20 at NH until the payout then down to 18
solar-song · · #32313
hp, you seem pretty knowledgable. does PH mine Pinkcoin? is there a list of coins they’re mining I can check out?
stugots2 · · #32314
honestly I’m looking for an excuse to come back here but that 2.58 scares me lol
solar-song · · #32315
heh