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Chat archive · 2017-07

wkying79 · · #11004

if you want to make konov’s life harder, just pick an order that is just below where you see the hash collecting. its around .0411 and .0421 and just put orders with big limits and his bots will push the hashrate up to 4.3-4.4-4.5

wkying79 · · #11005

sorry. not pick, but place an order

FRISKIE · · #11006

I have decided you are a selfish little fuck, with an accidentally arrogant opinion of your abilities, - translation - you think you are much smarter than you really are - you are very mistaken, and like + circumstances will show you, and humble you appropriately.

wkying79 · · #11007

but of course that means losing some money

Konov · · #11008

hehe. bot war was never ended ;)

fattygrub · · #11009

getting better.. now losing $96 per hour

FRISKIE · · #11010

put the order right above or rigth below?

wkying79 · · #11011

@friskie below is better for you. it doesn’t really matter because my guess is that his bots are more sensitive to the total hashrate at a certain price as opposed to the price of it

FRISKIE · · #11012

ok I will go try :)

Konov · · #11013

... run forest run ;)

wkying79 · · #11014

i cant verify which are his orders, but you will see there are large orders at all the different pricings. limits at like 500. so i just kinda match them. at .0411 i saw like over 50 GHs just collecting there. i placed and order at like .0401 for 20Ghs and the hashes started collecting up to the .0421 mark

wkying79 · · #11015

i could be compltely wrong here. just wanna put that out.

fattygrub · · #11016

oops now losing $131 per hour

fattygrub · · #11017

he claimed his order and shiowed the graphs

fattygrub · · #11018

he is losing and know it

Konov · · #11019

... place 10ghs order - bot will let you

fattygrub · · #11020

doing it on purpise fior what reason i do not understand

fattygrub · · #11021

no one here loses that much on purpose dude

fattygrub · · #11022

you are lying or are criminal...

fattygrub · · #11023

ohoh i mean both

wkying79 · · #11024

@fattygrub he was only showing us his fixed orders. my theory was that he has other bots that help to manipulate hash into certain price points he wants. then you average out his fixed orders and standard orders, and the result is that is is prob paying about .045

wkying79 · · #11025

he might be taking losses on the fixed, but he will be making after you average his from standard orders that are priced around .0411 or .0421

AvPro · · #11026

@wkying79 :  i think this is the correct - the fix will only reduce his margins.

AvPro · · #11027

he’s happy to lose a little on Fix to keep PH away ;) amirite?

fattygrub · · #11028

konov now losing $127 per hour

Konov · · #11029

Guys. U got me. Thats the point about fixes

wkying79 · · #11030

@avpro yes that is my guess

wkying79 · · #11031

@avpro with a floating auction platform, the only way to make returns consistent is to play price spreads

Konov · · #11032

I didnt want to take fixes, but have to.

wkying79 · · #11033

but you need a bot to constantly adjust the hash limits so you control your gains/losses

AvPro · · #11034

guess you need to watch your clock in 7hours

Konov · · #11035

hehe u r right

FRISKIE · · #11036

HAHAHA its right, it forces em to switch on lol

wkying79 · · #11037

the fixes make it easier to calculate otherwise you will have moving numbers with no true anchor to calcualte an averaging strategy

Konov · · #11038

no

Konov · · #11039

fixes is for stability

Konov · · #11040

;)

wkying79 · · #11041

right i mean a stable means to calculate a plan to meet a target % return

fattygrub · · #11042

konov now losing $145 per hour

AvPro · · #11043

he is isn’t fatty - its just offsetting winnings of the standard bot

Konov · · #11044

ouch. whos that big order? hehe

wkying79 · · #11045

If I were him i’d target a 3-5% daily return. if i invested my gains, it would be compounding and that will be very significant over time

wkying79 · · #11046

but i would need to secure a means to stabilize my returns and take out the volatility

wkying79 · · #11047

so i might take out a fixed order (as much as i can get) and then pay for it. then make sure i put in lower standard orders all over the place to meet a target return i want

Konov · · #11048

interesting theory. But I dont need fixed orders. I take it with only one purpose: to rise fixed orders price high.

Konov · · #11049

So, there are no "dust" fixed orders, who will take power from me

wkying79 · · #11050

actually i believe with NH you can lose fixed orders if there is not enough hashrate available. but for popular algo like scrypt that prob won’t be an issue

fattygrub · · #11051

way to go konov still losing $17 per hour

wkying79 · · #11052

well you want the fixed order price high so that you are the only one that can play this strategy

wkying79 · · #11053

above a certain price, then it becomes impossible to make the spread back from lower price standard order

Konov · · #11054

I want it high, to remove human-fixed-orders. There are no api for it ;(

Konov · · #11055

that’s the point

AvPro · · #11056

to remove for example people putting 60g fix on a coin difficulty drop?

wkying79 · · #11057

so basically the conclusion is still that you are doing this for self serving purposes. it doesn’t have much to do with PH as far as i can see

FRISKIE · · #11058

Im having ffun running price all the way up high, then moveing up ;levels, pushing all the miners up, all the way to the top :D :D

fattygrub · · #11059

the point is you bought fixed orders too high...you are losing your ass... keep it up

AvPro · · #11060

@wkying79 :  PH snatch the low diff blocks before his private pool. By reducing PH net hashrate by removing NH his private pool find blocks he wants

fattygrub · · #11061

i will wait your fool ass out

Konov · · #11062

@ AvPro - right

wkying79 · · #11063

@avpro ah ok gotcha

Konov · · #11064

because this people’s fix remove power from me.

AvPro · · #11065

@Konov :  in a fair market you can just purchase these fixes at low diff?

AvPro · · #11066

point to own private pool

Konov · · #11067

@ AvPro - dont understood you, sorry

Konov · · #11068

in a fair market you can just purchase these fixes at low diff?

AvPro · · #11069

@Konov :  so you dont like human orders at low coin diff

mickeekung · · #11070

This is Steve birthday. Happy birthday Steve. I with you success with PH.

AvPro · · #11071

@Konov :  you are human, just click faster than PH people

mickeekung · · #11072

"wish

Konov · · #11073

@ AvPro « - dont want to sit and click ;)

Konov · · #11074

PH snatch the low diff blocks before his private pool. By reducing PH net hashrate by removing NH his private pool find blocks he wants

Konov · · #11075

That not right

AvPro · · #11076

cheaper than $25,000 ;)

Konov · · #11077

I dont care of ph blocks

fattygrub · · #11078

Konov wrote: So, there are no "dust" fixed orders, who will take power from me
when you have lost enough money to learn your lesson.. dumb ass

Konov · · #11079

I care of reducing power because of new fixed orders in this low diff moments

fattygrub · · #11080

then we come back in

AvPro · · #11081

we both mean the same. I understand you

AvPro · · #11082

you don’t like PH+NH+Fix+LowDIff moments

Konov · · #11083

NH+Fix+LowDIff moments

Konov · · #11084

I would say it right

Konov · · #11085

ph itself is not a problem.

fattygrub · · #11086

you are still losing > 100 USD per hour..

fattygrub · · #11087

go go go loser

fattygrub · · #11088

the leave

Konov · · #11089

@ fattygrub shut your mouth, please

AvPro · · #11090

Konov wrote: NH+Fix+LowDIff moments
what about standard order, why take all and why unlimted

fattygrub · · #11091

konov now losing $126 per hour

Konov · · #11092

what about standard order, why take all and why unlimted - Im not taking all

AvPro · · #11093

Konov wrote: what about standard order, why take all and why unlimted - Im not taking all
you are not Mr Unlimted? ;)

wkying79 · · #11094

@konov you are taking all profitable positions. that’s what it meant by "taking all"

fattygrub · · #11095

konov now losing $138 per hour

Konov · · #11096

I trying to take best price with 61% hash demand

FRISKIE · · #11097

haha I'm driving them all right up to the top, its fun lol :D

d2391 · · #11098

FRISKIE wrote: haha I’m driving them all right up to the top, its fun lol :D
how, I’d like to join :D

fattygrub · · #11099

that was a good 10 second run konov, back to losing money dude

siberianbreaks · · #11100

what you goona do konov? DDOS prohashing again? just because you dont like nh fix orders?

fattygrub · · #11101

nope he is going ro continue losing like he is right now to spite himself until he finally gives up...give it time

Konov · · #11102

hehe. Now I can sleep - fix orders renewed ;)

siberianbreaks · · #11103

good night, tomorow you will see a big surprise on your balance