Chat archive · 2017-05
AvPro · · #3802
fees plus negative delta usually erode the profit
JoeTheMiner · · #3803
Right now it seems the rejects and negative delta is over 20% for some reason. Don’t know what changed from last night until now but NiceHash is currently unprofitable with that.
dfair98 · · #3804
@JoeTheMiner : what’s the nicehash setup look like?
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BehindTheGnoll · · #3806
what kind of miner should i use
GregoryGHarding · · #3807
@BehindTheGnoll : too much of a vague question. what do you want to mine..whats your budget, what type of mining do you want to do? if you dont know the answers to these questions, its best you research cryptocurrency mining on scrypt and x11 algorithms first
mjgraham · · #3808
@AvPro as far as negative delta, anywhere from -12 to -60 on one
tmopar · · #3809
I have noticed all of my zeus type pieces are down in their total MH.... for instance a group that got 75~ will now get 60~65... A standalone piece that usually puts out 40~+/-1 is now doing about 32-35... i have tried messing with difficulties. If i go to my fail over pool it will hash fine. Also have been getting some slow starts where it looks like it accepts a couple shares (even at a 768 or 512 diff) and then freezes for a minute or two until the next block is achieved then it will go but still slowww and far from max potential
tmopar · · #3810
interestingly, a2/a4’s are totally unaffected like nothing happened
dfair98 · · #3811
@tmopar : Usually the other way around..
Chris Sokolowski · · #3812
JoeTheMiner wrote: Right now it seems the rejects and negative delta is over 20% for some reason. Don’t know what changed from last night until now but NiceHash is currently unprofitable with that.We moved our mining server to much faster hardware. It’s possible that our slow server was responsible for a portion of the work restart times. With a faster server, work restart times may have gone down, resulting in more frequent coin switches. You might need to change some password arguments to compensate if it is losing you money.
lilbob · · #3813
Happy to report a flawless evening. Website up, workers showing, balance etc. and pool connectivity 
GregoryGHarding · · #3814
just curious whats everyone's owned miner hashrate, no rented hashrates
mickeekung · · #3815
Today BTC payout very fast but low profit than previous.
VanessaEzekowitz · · #3816
about 18.5 MH/sec here, when it’s working right.
GregoryGHarding · · #3817
@VanessaEzekowitz : what do you net a day @16 mh/s
VanessaEzekowitz · · #3818
My miners definitely do not like frequent restarts.
VanessaEzekowitz · · #3819
@Gregory, it varies but at 18, but when it’s behaving right, around 0.05 LTC/day I suppose.
VanessaEzekowitz · · #3820
My rig hasn’t been very reliable these past couple of days. site/pool changes confusing it.
tmopar · · #3821
600 mh here
tmopar · · #3822
vanessa i second your observations btw... but only on some of the units.... others are performing like nothing ever happened... profit is lower but i think its market driven
AvPro · · #3823
i think its market drivengame coin seem to be higher returns outside of prohash right now? mhash right now gets more btc than the figure on top of this page. Or is my maths way out?
pilottage · · #3824
when X11 is more profitable than Scrypt... time to get a rig!
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tmopar · · #3829
Steve/Chris... can you comment on this? If we do m=pps c=gamecoin or c=bitcoinconnect since the earnings seem to spike with this coin, if we choose to mine it do we get any benenfit or is any m=pps share equal to any other? Thanks!
FRISKIE · · #3830
Nicehash is now worse than unprofitable, I had about 40% loss today on the BTC that went in vs the earnings I mined.
mickeekung · · #3831
FRISKIE wrote: Nicehash is now worse than unprofitable, I had about 40% loss today on the BTC that went in vs the earnings I mined.Me too. This happpen after upgrading.
FRISKIE · · #3832
No idea what has happened since the last round of upgrades and move to the new mining server, but the results today are so bad I can’t continue until some strong evidence that the problems have been identified and resolved.
FRISKIE · · #3833
Sorry to hear that mickeekung 
FRISKIE · · #3834
@ Steve/Chris - please have a look at the below comments re: Nicehash since the upgrade
tmopar · · #3835
FRISK, I think its more than you guys renting... a few of my rigs are def. down as well since the upgrade. But i think it might be like specific versions of the mining software or something more basic relative to the machines themselves because about half of my power comes from innosilicon devices and i must admit they are working perfectly or close enough i cant tell
FRISKIE · · #3836
Am inclined to agree, and as Nicehash is constantly cycling in new miners you end up with quite a mix in your order. Still it was profitable before, and now it results in significant loss post upgrade, and if you guys with HW miners are feeling it too I’m sure Chris and Steve will consider it priority to sort out.
UPSoft · · #3837
1 L3+ here (9 soon) noticed less profit today
tmopar · · #3838
ups if you dont mind me asking did you order direct from them? april time frame? I am kicking myself in the ass for not snapping them up when i saw them going for 1500
UPSoft · · #3839
not direct
mjgraham · · #3840
as far as my opinion, I agree it was doing a lot better before the upgrade, I also worry about the stats from the WAMP I notice a lot of the time the webpage and the stats aren’t close. I do feel before was going better, I am sure they will get it figured out though.
mickeekung · · #3841
Right now I feel like the profit are raising up about 20 percent or more. Nice. I’m going to sleep now.
mickeekung · · #3842
It’s dropped again. Oh no!!!
FRISKIE · · #3843
My loss was easy to calculate when using Nicehash, I know what I loaded up my orders with and compare that to end of day earnings - before the upgrade I was excited to be making a profit, since the upgrade and especially the past 2 days I have lost money, no matter which of the optimizations I tried via password arguments. Today was simply brutal though, 40% loss and the puzzling thing is that I watched closely today and very few rejects, very low penalties, almost no delta all day, but the earnings just weren’t adding up for some reason.
tmopar · · #3844
Frisk, have you checked your hardware error rates?
FRISKIE · · #3845
Its Nicehash so no way to know which miners they are cycling in and out of the order over the day
FRISKIE · · #3846
But I wasn’t getting rejected and very few stale shares, nothing in any of the parameters that are monitored indicated a serious problem of any kind. The profits from mining simply didn’t pile up, they trickled in so slowly that by the time my order ended I was down 40% , yesterday was a fairly big loss as well, but I thought maybe I had selected the wrong coin, so I returned to Bitconnectcoin today and still lost profits.
GregoryGHarding · · #3847
steve already mentioned the loss in profit maybe due to the speed increase on the mining servers ability to process shares. they said try setting your h= arg higher
AvPro · · #3848
I think generally the pool live profitability has been lower today and yesterday. Usually <0.00003 for Scrypt and <0.00001 for X11
GregoryGHarding · · #3849
X11 has taken a prof hit the last few days for sure
mjgraham · · #3850
I dont know, I really didnt have any negative delta the last couple , I think the WAMP output needs a timestamp field just to make sure, I am basing my decisions on it, sometimes I see it high on the stream but on website it is low, both updating
tmopar · · #3851
i re-read the documentation about the h= parameter and it specifically says that it will cause your profitability to go down slightly in and of itself and says really only cloud miners (which i am not) should use it. Given the circumstances though, I will try this on a few of my more troublesome miners and will report back, starting with an h=100 value
Chris Sokolowski · · #3852
It’s also worth mentioning we were mining the Gamecredit bubble for the past week or two, and that bubble seems to have calmed down a bit in the past few days resulting in more coin switches and lower profitability. Something completely out of our control unfortunately.
tmopar · · #3853
chris, i think i have the answer to whats going on here perhaps. I have tested this with a standalone zeus piece doing about 40 megahashes. If you still have yours, connect, and watch it closely. You will get a few shares maybe 6 or 7... then the block will switch then it will hang, it hangs for about 30~45 seconds, no work going in or out is discernable
tmopar · · #3854
i am using diff =768 and 512, i have noticed that the higher i put the difficulty the lower the reported MH (probably just fewer shares etc)
tmopar · · #3855
the worker name in question was p38, and i am using the h=100 arg now as outlined
tmopar · · #3856
before in the chat. Also, and this is very interesting... I have looked at the MH output now vs before and it is 9.1 10 and 9.6 % with all three pieces off of its former height.
tmopar · · #3857
all of my inno silicon pieces are fine, im using bfgminer 4.x on the raspis for the zeus pieces if that helps
webshaun · · #3858
Hi guys, isn’t the "payout eligible" supposed to increase at the same time as the account total? I am afraid I screwed something up when I set the payout lower than the network minimum.
Chris Sokolowski · · #3859
No, coins only become payout eligible at midnight ET. The eligible balance will increase once at that time every day.
webshaun · · #3860
ty
VanessaEzekowitz · · #3861
My miners like low-difficulty shares (or at least, it seemed to work okay) but when the last site upgrade went in, the static diff of 512 resulted in frequent restarts, "old" blocks, and stale shares. I bumped it up to 1024 last night, and it’s since been hashing steadily without any problems (that’s about 15h14m as of this comment)
VanessaEzekowitz · · #3862
@Chris Sokolowski (and the previous comment also), that is to say, the frequent restarts made both bfgminer and my little gridseeds quite unhappy. the higher difficulty seems to be doing the trick.