Status as of Friday, February 23, 2018

Sorry I assumed that the polls would be hidden once removed. I also said it is my belief, as in opinion, from a customer standpoint. Never said it was fact. I did not state the name of the competing pool I am referring to because I do not want your customers to rush over there and clog their network causing issues for everyone. I do notice they mine a coin called Ninja very often. I searched for that coin and could not find a wallet or docs on it so is is mysterious and I meant to ask PH about that a while ago but never did. If you really want to know the pool name then send me a PM and I will respond. Someone will probably guess in with the ninja clue.

As to the naysayers that claim we wouldn't be mining here if it wasn't more profitable or whatever... I personally only keep about 10% or less of my miners at PH due to better profits elsewhere and a payout ticket discrepancy from way back in December. (it might take hours clicking next just to get back to december payments) I just hooked up many new miners and had to put PH as third backup because of network issues connecting that can take 1/2 hour or more to connect. Since backups are often only needed for 1/2 hour it just doesn't work. So PH can either be first or third, if that makes any sense to you. As solo coins become unprofitable or undesirable I have been moving those miners to more profitable pools. Since my miners are scattered, it is difficult for me to change pools. Slowly but surely they are moving elsewhere. The one solo coin I am having best luck with has been excellent here at PH but I just learned how to solo mine it without PH directly to wallet so as soon as I have time to set that up I will be saving another 3%. Of course there is hope that the new Comcast line will change things but waiting for them is like a bad joke.

We obviously like it here as far as coins and nice open seemingly honest admin. That is why we keep a few miners here. The solo option is hard to find elsewhere. And being paid in 100 coins a day is a great lottery in case one of those coins reaches the stars some day. It is a superbly addictive fun website, unfortunately the forum remains the best part since profitability and ticket response and connectivity is a C grade at best.

I am not belittling your company in any way although I still maintain that you owe me $50. from December and am waiting for response or payout, That made me very angry and uncomfortable with PH. I am calmer now because I have finally gotten a ticket response, but was unable to view the images in that response so am again waiting for admin to provide viewable images and a humane way to scroll back to december payments. Until then I can only trust my own facts as posted in the original ticket.

Keep up the good work!

I didn't get a PM so I will just post the last 10 days earnings from competitor pool. These are scrypt only ... It is always possible that they are skewing their reported numbers, but for the past 10 days at least, they consistently beat PH and Nicehash.
2/22 0.00000223
2/21 0.00000219
2/20 0.00000201
2/19 0.00000222
2/18 0.00000209
2/17 0.00000214
2/16 0.00000342
2/15 0.00000252
2/14 0.00000248
2/13 0.00000232

travelinmusic wrote:I didn't get a PM so I will just post the last 10 days earnings from competitor pool. These are scrypt only ... It is always possible that they are skewing their reported numbers, but for the past 10 days at least, they consistently beat PH and Nicehash.
2/22 0.00000223
2/21 0.00000219
2/20 0.00000201
2/19 0.00000222
2/18 0.00000209
2/17 0.00000214
2/16 0.00000342
2/15 0.00000252
2/14 0.00000248
2/13 0.00000232

OK, I think I understand what's happening. I don't want to make assumptions, but what is most likely true is that this other pool mines and sells a coin that is not offered at any major exchanges with APIs.

A pool like this can't become large, which is why people who find these pools usually don't want to publicize them. First, it's not possible for a human to execute all the trades manually when the number of trades exceeds a reasonable number. We execute 100,000 trades per day, for example, a number that's impossible for a human to achieve. Second, even if it were possible for a human to deal with all the trades, if more people joined the pool, then the coin's difficulty would increase too much. The first adopters would end up mining the same coins that are mined here, and the manual steps at the other pool would make that pool need to charge more overhead than we do.

There's always going to be one or two of these pools that have to remain small to succeed, and I congratulate you for finding one. I'm more concerned with miners who say that they can earn more at a pool that doesn't switch coins. That indicates there could be something wrong here that reduces the efficiency of their type of miners too much.

Is a very popular pool. Their fees are probably the difference at 1-2%. Like I said just PM me and I respond with one word/name of pool.

Algo Port Coins Miners Hashrate Fees CurrentEstimate 24 Hours Estimated 24 Hours Actual*
sha256 3333 22 1465 15.2 PH/s 1.15% 81.99069* 579.24361 69.88621*
scrypt hot 3433 51 2546 1 TH/s 1.15% 2.98222 2.33124 2.22030
equihash hot 2142 3 598 534.7 kS/s 1.75% 0.38524 0.38644 0.22900
qubit 4733 3 182 267.5 GH/s 2% 0.27613 0.25700 0.21337
quark 4033 2 36 13 GH/s 2% 0.23846 0.15830 0.12585
neoscrypt 4233 13 3297 19.9 GH/s 2% 0.21285 0.25466 0.18941
lyra2z 4553 2 586 528.7 MH/s 1% 0.11962 0.11084 0.09714
xevan 3739 3 198 355.5 MH/s 2% 0.05823 0.06850 0.07656
x11 hot 3533 35 2899 44.3 TH/s 1% 0.03526 0.02949 0.02513
hmq1725 3747 ESP 117 1.1 GH/s 2% 0.02947 0.03127 0.01639
blake2s 5766 5 3050 15.3 TH/s 2% 0.02731 0.02753 0.02046
x17 3737 2 1068 31.1 GH/s 2% 0.01926 0.02194 0.02271
m7m 6033 XMG 706 17.7 MH/s 2% 0.01726 0.07796 0.05660
bitcore 3556 BTX 63 2 GH/s 2% 0.01399 0.01243 0.01197
phi new 8333 LUX 958 74.1 GH/s 2% 0.01132 0.01497 0.01442
polytimos new 8463 PLYS 138 5.5 GH/s 2% 0.01108 0.01147 0.01130
hsr new 7433 HSR 8 79.8 MH/s 2% 0.01076 0.01538 0.01626
c11 3573 3 33 748.9 MH/s 2% 0.00846 0.01077 0.00931
x11evo 3553 XRE 21 253.4 MH/s 2% 0.00744 0.00922 0.00876
yescrypt 6233 3 14967 15.3 MH/s 2% 0.00669 0.00712 0.00624
sib 5033 SIB 23 95.2 MH/s 2% 0.00577 0.00933 0.00703
lyra2v2 4533 7 956 97.5 GH/s 1.75% 0.00483 0.00519 0.00579
nist5 3833 5 308 21.6 GH/s 2% 0.00409 0.00398 0.00376
blakecoin 5743 3 23 1.1 TH/s 2% 0.00356 0.00417 0.00353
tribus 8533 DNR 233 38.9 GH/s 2% 0.00311 0.00272 0.00305
groestl 5333 GRS 28 185.3 MH/s 2% 0.00227 0.00246 0.00503
skunk 8433 MGT 12 297 MH/s 2% 0.00189 0.00152 0.00146
x14 3933 BERN 39 15.3 GH/s 2% 0.00064 0.00072 0.00047
skein 4933 3 100 127.8 GH/s 2% 0.00035 0.00035 0.00035
x13 3633 2 54 28.7 GH/s 2% 0.00032 0.00040 0.00043
myr-gr 5433 5 23 144.1 GH/s 2% 0.00020 0.00017 0.00023
lbry 3334 LBC 65 51.4 GH/s 2% 0.00007 0.00007 0.00023
all 185 34800

Hi Steve, Argentum 4.14.4 is the latest release. Please check out the release log and update before the hard fork at block 2,977,000 https://github.com/argentumproject/argentum/releases

I tried the email address on file for prohashing.com but it was rejected and no longer valid.

argentum wrote:Hi Steve, Argentum 4.14.4 is the latest release. Please check out the release log and update before the hard fork at block 2,977,000 https://github.com/argentumproject/argentum/releases

I tried the email address on file for prohashing.com but it was rejected and no longer valid.

We disabled all E-Mail addresses because we need to be able to better exchange information between multiple people. Please submit a support ticket at https://support.prohashing.com. Submitting support tickets allows the most qualified person to be assigned to complete the task.

In this case, since I'm not the person who maintains coins, I'm not able to assist, but a ticket will cause Chris, who is the appropriate person, to be notified.

travelinmusic wrote:Is a very popular pool. Their fees are probably the difference at 1-2%. Like I said just PM me and I respond with one word/name of pool.

Algo Port Coins Miners Hashrate Fees CurrentEstimate 24 Hours Estimated 24 Hours Actual*
sha256 3333 22 1465 15.2 PH/s 1.15% 81.99069* 579.24361 69.88621*
scrypt hot 3433 51 2546 1 TH/s 1.15% 2.98222 2.33124 2.22030
equihash hot 2142 3 598 534.7 kS/s 1.75% 0.38524 0.38644 0.22900
qubit 4733 3 182 267.5 GH/s 2% 0.27613 0.25700 0.21337
quark 4033 2 36 13 GH/s 2% 0.23846 0.15830 0.12585
neoscrypt 4233 13 3297 19.9 GH/s 2% 0.21285 0.25466 0.18941
lyra2z 4553 2 586 528.7 MH/s 1% 0.11962 0.11084 0.09714
xevan 3739 3 198 355.5 MH/s 2% 0.05823 0.06850 0.07656
x11 hot 3533 35 2899 44.3 TH/s 1% 0.03526 0.02949 0.02513
hmq1725 3747 ESP 117 1.1 GH/s 2% 0.02947 0.03127 0.01639
blake2s 5766 5 3050 15.3 TH/s 2% 0.02731 0.02753 0.02046
x17 3737 2 1068 31.1 GH/s 2% 0.01926 0.02194 0.02271
m7m 6033 XMG 706 17.7 MH/s 2% 0.01726 0.07796 0.05660
bitcore 3556 BTX 63 2 GH/s 2% 0.01399 0.01243 0.01197
phi new 8333 LUX 958 74.1 GH/s 2% 0.01132 0.01497 0.01442
polytimos new 8463 PLYS 138 5.5 GH/s 2% 0.01108 0.01147 0.01130
hsr new 7433 HSR 8 79.8 MH/s 2% 0.01076 0.01538 0.01626
c11 3573 3 33 748.9 MH/s 2% 0.00846 0.01077 0.00931
x11evo 3553 XRE 21 253.4 MH/s 2% 0.00744 0.00922 0.00876
yescrypt 6233 3 14967 15.3 MH/s 2% 0.00669 0.00712 0.00624
sib 5033 SIB 23 95.2 MH/s 2% 0.00577 0.00933 0.00703
lyra2v2 4533 7 956 97.5 GH/s 1.75% 0.00483 0.00519 0.00579
nist5 3833 5 308 21.6 GH/s 2% 0.00409 0.00398 0.00376
blakecoin 5743 3 23 1.1 TH/s 2% 0.00356 0.00417 0.00353
tribus 8533 DNR 233 38.9 GH/s 2% 0.00311 0.00272 0.00305
groestl 5333 GRS 28 185.3 MH/s 2% 0.00227 0.00246 0.00503
skunk 8433 MGT 12 297 MH/s 2% 0.00189 0.00152 0.00146
x14 3933 BERN 39 15.3 GH/s 2% 0.00064 0.00072 0.00047
skein 4933 3 100 127.8 GH/s 2% 0.00035 0.00035 0.00035
x13 3633 2 54 28.7 GH/s 2% 0.00032 0.00040 0.00043
myr-gr 5433 5 23 144.1 GH/s 2% 0.00020 0.00017 0.00023
lbry 3334 LBC 65 51.4 GH/s 2% 0.00007 0.00007 0.00023
all 185 34800

Why not just submit a support ticket with the name? I disabled private messages because people were sending me messages that weren't being assigned to the right person.

If you submit a support ticket, then every employee, not just me, will be able to see the discussion, allowing the best qualified person to take action.

The Higher scrypt profitability is because they are mining Scrypt twords Verge with merge mined VIa and DOGE. This is also why you notice so many people coming on to live chat trying to get Verge solo mining working. Its running about 109% LTC for yesterday.

What I don't understand is why the algos don't figure this out and move the (fewer) pps pool miners to doing the same. I'm guessing its because to reach the 109 PPS it is necessary to hold the Verge and put in limit orders to sell.

pavvappav wrote:The Higher scrypt profitability is because they are mining Scrypt twords Verge with merge mined VIa and DOGE. This is also why you notice so many people coming on to live chat trying to get Verge solo mining working. Its running about 109% LTC for yesterday.

What I don't understand is why the algos don't figure this out and move the (fewer) pps pool miners to doing the same. I'm guessing its because to reach the 109 PPS it is necessary to hold the Verge and put in limit orders to sell.

I'm not completely sure about this issue because I haven't done all of the research, but my guess is that there's a combination of factors here. The problem isn't just that 109% isn't possible, it's also that these calculators assume perfect conditions, which don't exist.

For example, our "LTC" line adds in a few realistic assumptions that the naive calculators don't consider:

• Due to the speed of light and the number of nodes, it is expected that LTC will average a 2.5% orphan rate, even for solo miners. Due to this factor, alone, you simply cannot achieve the perfect rate in the calculators. Verge has faster blocks than LTC and therefore has a higher orphan rate. That pulls the advantage of Verge over LTC down.
• None of the calculators include pool fees. Every pool has fees or they can't remain in business.
• None of the calculators includes the influence of "low luck miners." We've found that about 2% of miners are "low luck" miners, caused by buggy firmware. We've had success at eliminating these, but I suspect that most customers don't even know they own these miners and, since there is no information in the literature, I don't think any other pools have figured out how to detect them.

These three issues are always going to pull down profits below what the "ideal" payout rate is in the calculators.

Finally, I don't see why it has to be so difficult to figure out which pool posted these numbers. The 50% increase seems too good to be true. Once we know what pool it is, I'll run miners myself to verify that the payouts are what was recorded and we can probably identify the difference pretty easily. If it's adding a coin that that pool mines and we don't, then we could have profits equalized within a few days.

Litecoinpool.org appears to make about $2. more per 600MH/s And Zpool.ca is the mystery pool that I didn't want to disclose. ...Due to the last few days of disasterously low solo earnings, I have moved most solo miners to litecoinpool with zpool as 2nd. I have some zpool as 1st. If anyone wants to donate 10% of their INCREASED earnings to me in BTC at 1PLwP78wXU8zX5gcQaebL9nEyCKJePvf4a then that would certainly be much appreciated.