Bitcoin Question

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Kavin
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Bitcoin Question

Post by Kavin » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:28 am

So yeah im a absolutely noob in bitcoin hehe
my question is: When i got bitcoins on my wallet and lets say i dont go on this wallet for 2 years will the bitcoins increase? So is this a way to investest (and yes i know it can fall lets say it wont fall)
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Re: Bitcoin Question

Post by ajs » Tue Mar 19, 2019 9:59 am

Kavin wrote:So yeah im a absolutely noob in bitcoin hehe
my question is: When i got bitcoins on my wallet and lets say i dont go on this wallet for 2 years will the bitcoins increase? So is this a way to investest (and yes i know it can fall lets say it wont fall)
Bitcoin does not pay dividends nor does it have staking, which works a bit like a dividend. The amount of coins in your wallet will be the same in 2 years. But the value of the coins will certainly not be. Some will say it will be worth nothing, other the moon, the reality is in between.

If you want investment like things that grow, look at coins that use Proof of Share (PoS) not Proof of Work (PoW) and then when you put them in your wallet, you delegate you votes and they pay you in coins. Not that many of these coins are not as solid as bitcoin.

https://stakingrewards.com

Etherium and Cardano will be staking shortly.
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Re: Bitcoin Question

Post by CSZiggy » Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:32 am

ajs wrote:Bitcoin does not pay dividends
But when you sell your bitcoins and turn them into fiat currency, it could trigger a dividends like sell short/long term capital gains event. Depending on which country you live in you would then be responsible for paying the taxes on the money you get when you sell the coins.

Unlike a bank wallet, cryptowallets do not provide interest-rate earnings.

There are some exchanges that allow shorting of cryptocurrency. If you put your bitcoins in and allow them to be used by traders you can get a bump in the number of coins you have as a type of interest payment for the traders being allowed to use your coins. There may be a term of time you have to agree to depending on the exchange(we give you 1% on top of your initial deposit if you agree to leave coins here for 6 months-type clauses).
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Re: Bitcoin Question

Post by Steve Sokolowski » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:04 pm

CSZiggy wrote:
ajs wrote:Bitcoin does not pay dividends
But when you sell your bitcoins and turn them into fiat currency, it could trigger a dividends like sell short/long term capital gains event. Depending on which country you live in you would then be responsible for paying the taxes on the money you get when you sell the coins.

Unlike a bank wallet, cryptowallets do not provide interest-rate earnings.

There are some exchanges that allow shorting of cryptocurrency. If you put your bitcoins in and allow them to be used by traders you can get a bump in the number of coins you have as a type of interest payment for the traders being allowed to use your coins. There may be a term of time you have to agree to depending on the exchange(we give you 1% on top of your initial deposit if you agree to leave coins here for 6 months-type clauses).
Note that if you do that, you can also lose money if the shorter is margin called and his orders are unable to be fulfilled with all the money he has. Some exchanges have "socialized losses" that cause everyone to lose money when that happens.
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Re: Bitcoin Question

Post by CSZiggy » Wed Mar 20, 2019 2:00 am

The ones I've seen require you to have a balance of double what you borrow against in order to put a short order in. It locks your balance so you are unable to trade/buy or withdraw it under the 2:1 ratio while you have a short order credited to your account. If it gets under a certain percent below the 50% balance the margin call is automatically triggered and you pay from your balance. Then if you want you can re-short with half of what you have left, rinse, repeat.

I've found one that requires 3:1 balance vs what you borrow to short, but not sure who would go with that one when others are offering only needing 2:1 in order to short.

I don't mind going long on the upswings, but finding the bottom on a short and having 2X the funds to even be able to do it means I dont play the short game very often.
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Re: Bitcoin Question

Post by CSZiggy » Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:27 pm

We weren't discussing the length of term of the purchase, but shorting or going long on the price with respects to trading.

@brendann I find it amusing you came on the forums to place an ad about crypto trading but seem to have no idea what shorting or going long means when it comes to trading. Thank you for your ad placement.
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Re: Bitcoin Question

Post by Juliia888 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:38 am

You won't get any dividents if you just keep bitcoin in your wallet, and of course you can leave it for 2 years but it is very risky. You may become richer or lose your money, everything depends on the currency course
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