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Mining DOGE alone vs. Mining LTC alone;

Post by ToeKnee » Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:43 am

Hey.

I just visited a website, and I put in a few figures, say "5GHs" for LTC and "5GHs" for DOGE. The estimated profit returned was higher for DOGE alone than for LTC alone; I know that many pools do merge mining LTC+DOGE and payout in just LTC. I was wondering if Prohashing has investigated mining DOGE alone to see if profits increase for the Scrypt algo. From what I can tell, proswitching goes between LTC and Dash, I think. Perhaps if DOGE alone was added to Proswitching, we'd see more money on Scrypt? Perhaps? Maybe?

https://www.coinwarz.com/mining/litecoin/calculator
https://www.coinwarz.com/mining/dogecoin/calculator
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Re: Mining DOGE alone vs. Mining LTC alone;

Post by ToeKnee » Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:16 am

I know that Doge is merge-mined as it stands on Prohashing right now.

I am not sure if it's even possible to mine it alone as a solo coin, apart from merge mining. Is the nature of Doge such that mining it as an individual coin is impossible, regardless of programming effort? Is this even worth exploring?

When I click on https://prohashing.com/live-pool-status -> Coin Status -> Algorithm = Scrypt ... I see a nice table of all the Scrypt coins, that I assume Proswitching goes through when figuring out what is the most profitable coin on the algo. Doge is on this list too, but as a merge mined coin. When I click on Doge, I see that it has a block reward of 10,000. Wouldn't that be something in PPLNS :D ..

Anyhow. I'm just spit-balling ideas. Maybe I don't know the logistics and underlying programming of it all, but if there's a way to make more money, then I'm all for it.
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Re: Mining DOGE alone vs. Mining LTC alone;

Post by Steve Sokolowski » Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:59 pm

It's possible to mine DOGE alone; it just doesn't make any sense to do that. You'd be losing half the money you could otherwise make.

DOGE is already merge-mined optimally no matter what other coin is being mined, so no action needs to be taken. There's no advantage to mining only one coin during merge mining.
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Re: Mining DOGE alone vs. Mining LTC alone;

Post by ToeKnee » Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:39 pm

Steve Sokolowski wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:59 pm It's possible to mine DOGE alone; it just doesn't make any sense to do that. You'd be losing half the money you could otherwise make.
Steve, I believe you.

But from my naïve point of view, this is what I see. I see a chart on Prohashing's website that lists all the Scrypt coins. Profitability in USD in cents per MegaHash is listed on this chart. I know that coin profitability varies, and hence proswitching determines which one among the many is more profitable automatically. A natural question then arises: if Doge shows the highest profit, why isn't Proswitching mining Doge alone with 100% hashrate but instead giving Doge a partial hash rate from merge mining? Or am I misunderstanding merge mining? Does 100% of the Hashrate trickle to Doge or does mining Doge receive some portion of the total hashrate?

Now, I'm overlapping this information with information from the worker configurator. (https://prohashing.com/tools/miner-configurator/Scrypt).. when I play with Mining Method=Static Coin, the following coins appear in the drop down menu: Aevocoin, Beyondcoin, Cheesecoin, DigiBye, Emerald, Florincoin, Gcoin, Ioclcoin, Litecoin, Mooncoin, Parallelcoin, Pyrk, RubleBit, Shieldcoin, Strayacoin, Verge, iBitHub ... Doge is not in the worker configuration list, even though many less profitable coins are. To me, that seems odd. Why list all those other coins but leave out Doge? (This is why I asked if it was even possible to mine doge as a solo coin. "Perhaps the reason it was left out was because it's mining Doge as a solo coin isn't possible in the first place," I guessed.)

Now if I take information from the chart, which at the time of the screenshot, Dogecoin = 0.93926534 cents/MH/s, I begin to wonder why mining Doge as a static coin isn't an option in the worker configuration section. Since Doge shows the highest cents per MH out of all the coins, why isn't going after Doge alone listed?

And from this, I asked the question about mining Doge alone. How could anyone be losing 1/2 the money when Doge itself shows the highest profitability? I don't know the nuts-and-bolts behind the scenes, but this question just jumped out at me.

I realize I have no idea what goes on in the backend. I realize that there are other factors at work that justify what you said. No problem there--no beef or push back from me--to be clear. :mrgreen:

I'm just trying to understand why going after Doge alone isn't profitable when the chart says that it's the most profitable Scrypt coin.

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Re: Mining DOGE alone vs. Mining LTC alone;

Post by jreysack » Thu Jul 29, 2021 6:18 pm

from my understanding, the 0.93 cents per megahash/s is on a per 24 hour period??? like i mine at 1mh/s i'll get .93 cents (just under 1 cent) per day.
from binance academy "Merged mining refers to the act of mining two or more cryptocurrencies at the same time, without sacrificing overall mining performance. Essentially, a miner can use their computational power to mine blocks on multiple chains concurrently through the use of what is known as Auxiliary Proof of Work (AuxPoW)."
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Re: Mining DOGE alone vs. Mining LTC alone;

Post by arkansasguy » Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:47 am

Steve Sokolowski wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:59 pm It's possible to mine DOGE alone; it just doesn't make any sense to do that. You'd be losing half the money you could otherwise make.

DOGE is already merge-mined optimally no matter what other coin is being mined, so no action needs to be taken. There's no advantage to mining only one coin during merge mining.
Hey Steve,

I use prohashing. I’m currently at about 1.3gh/s. I have it set to 100% Doge.

You seem like you know what’s going on, can you tell me how to make the most profits I can from my current hash rate? Obviously setting 100% doge isn’t it more than likely.

Examples please. Like 50% LTC 50% Doge…what? 100% BTC?

Thank you sir.
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Re: Mining DOGE alone vs. Mining LTC alone;

Post by Alynn » Fri Oct 01, 2021 10:43 am

ToeKnee wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 2:39 pm
Steve Sokolowski wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:59 pm It's possible to mine DOGE alone; it just doesn't make any sense to do that. You'd be losing half the money you could otherwise make.
Steve, I believe you.

But from my naïve point of view, this is what I see. I see a chart on Prohashing's website that lists all the Scrypt coins. Profitability in USD in cents per MegaHash is listed on this chart. I know that coin profitability varies, and hence proswitching determines which one among the many is more profitable automatically. A natural question then arises: if Doge shows the highest profit, why isn't Proswitching mining Doge alone with 100% hashrate but instead giving Doge a partial hash rate from merge mining? Or am I misunderstanding merge mining? Does 100% of the Hashrate trickle to Doge or does mining Doge receive some portion of the total hashrate?

Now, I'm overlapping this information with information from the worker configurator. (https://prohashing.com/tools/miner-configurator/Scrypt).. when I play with Mining Method=Static Coin, the following coins appear in the drop down menu: Aevocoin, Beyondcoin, Cheesecoin, DigiBye, Emerald, Florincoin, Gcoin, Ioclcoin, Litecoin, Mooncoin, Parallelcoin, Pyrk, RubleBit, Shieldcoin, Strayacoin, Verge, iBitHub ... Doge is not in the worker configuration list, even though many less profitable coins are. To me, that seems odd. Why list all those other coins but leave out Doge? (This is why I asked if it was even possible to mine doge as a solo coin. "Perhaps the reason it was left out was because it's mining Doge as a solo coin isn't possible in the first place," I guessed.)

Now if I take information from the chart, which at the time of the screenshot, Dogecoin = 0.93926534 cents/MH/s, I begin to wonder why mining Doge as a static coin isn't an option in the worker configuration section. Since Doge shows the highest cents per MH out of all the coins, why isn't going after Doge alone listed?

And from this, I asked the question about mining Doge alone. How could anyone be losing 1/2 the money when Doge itself shows the highest profitability? I don't know the nuts-and-bolts behind the scenes, but this question just jumped out at me.

I realize I have no idea what goes on in the backend. I realize that there are other factors at work that justify what you said. No problem there--no beef or push back from me--to be clear. :mrgreen:

I'm just trying to understand why going after Doge alone isn't profitable when the chart says that it's the most profitable Scrypt coin.

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Let me see if I can TL;DR this whole thing.

Sure you could mine doge by itself, or you can merge mine it.

If you mine it by itself you get the value of the doge you mine.

Or you can merge mine it, and get the value of the coin you are mining, AND get doge on top of it.

Effectively you are mining both. That is why doing Doge by itself doesn't make any sense. Because you are losing out on the other coin(s)
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Re: Mining DOGE alone vs. Mining LTC alone;

Post by arkansasguy » Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:39 pm

Steve Sokolowski wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:59 pm It's possible to mine DOGE alone; it just doesn't make any sense to do that. You'd be losing half the money you could otherwise make.

DOGE is already merge-mined optimally no matter what other coin is being mined, so no action needs to be taken. There's no advantage to mining only one coin during merge mining.
Please explain further what you mean here.

If I mine DOGE alone I get around 60 per day. But if I put say 50% on Shiba Inu and 50% on DOGE then I’d only get 30 DOGE a day right?

Seems if I wanted more DOGE, then mining alone would make sense?
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Re: Mining DOGE alone vs. Mining LTC alone;

Post by Sarah Manter » Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:56 pm

arkansasguy wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:39 pm
Steve Sokolowski wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:59 pm It's possible to mine DOGE alone; it just doesn't make any sense to do that. You'd be losing half the money you could otherwise make.

DOGE is already merge-mined optimally no matter what other coin is being mined, so no action needs to be taken. There's no advantage to mining only one coin during merge mining.
Please explain further what you mean here.

If I mine DOGE alone I get around 60 per day. But if I put say 50% on Shiba Inu and 50% on DOGE then I’d only get 30 DOGE a day right?

Seems if I wanted more DOGE, then mining alone would make sense?
When you say 50% on Shiba Inu and 50% on DOGE, are you referring to your payout proportions?
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Re: Mining DOGE alone vs. Mining LTC alone;

Post by arkansasguy » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:12 pm

Sarah Manter wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:56 pm
arkansasguy wrote: Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:39 pm
Steve Sokolowski wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 12:59 pm It's possible to mine DOGE alone; it just doesn't make any sense to do that. You'd be losing half the money you could otherwise make.

DOGE is already merge-mined optimally no matter what other coin is being mined, so no action needs to be taken. There's no advantage to mining only one coin during merge mining.
Please explain further what you mean here.

If I mine DOGE alone I get around 60 per day. But if I put say 50% on Shiba Inu and 50% on DOGE then I’d only get 30 DOGE a day right?

Seems if I wanted more DOGE, then mining alone would make sense?
When you say 50% on Shiba Inu and 50% on DOGE, are you referring to your payout proportions?
Yes. I don’t know how else you’d merge mine with prohashing if not that
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